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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;MIGuy, post: 8142352, member: 116145&quot;]Thanks!&nbsp; I&#039;ve picked up a few of the medieval hammered coins in NGC slabs, and I&#039;ve seen them in all four of the big TPGs slabs.&nbsp; I submitted an 1272-1307 England Penny, Edward I hammered silver coin (not expensive) that was nicer than most I&#039;ve seen to ICG.&nbsp; I have seen similar coins (just online pictures) - period English pennies, that are not as nice (here&#039;s an ANACS example - <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/133959387565?chn=ps&amp;mkevt=1&amp;mkcid=28" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/133959387565?chn=ps&amp;mkevt=1&amp;mkcid=28" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.com/itm/133959387565?chn=ps&amp;mkevt=1&amp;mkcid=28</a>).&nbsp; My submission came back from ICG as a VF20 damaged Details.&nbsp; Hammered coins often have imperfect edges, etc as a consequence of how they are made, and I&#039;ve seen other period hammered pennies that weren&#039;t as nice, with similar imperfections, that graded straight in NGC slabs, often with higher grades. However, I concede I could argue this one the other way too. I think that my goals - to guarantee authenticity (better learn to recognize fakes) and improve my ability to assess grades are coming up against the reality of the fact that ideally you need someone who really knows the coin type and is familiar with the normal &quot;imperfections&quot; attendant to the particular coin.&nbsp; It also probably doesn&#039;t help my cause that I&#039;m paying the discounted CT rate of $15 for world coins and some grader who has 100s of coins a day (I imagine) to grade, has to try and figure out what&#039;s going on with a very old, perhaps not very familiar inexpensive coin that isn&#039;t made nearly as well as stamped press coins, in a relatively short amount of time to carry on with their work for the day.&nbsp; I have picked up some used books on medieval and early English coins and continue to do my own research. Here is the penny I referenced -</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1419581[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1419582[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1419583[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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