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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;SilverStackerKid, post: 3226384, member: 73756&quot;]This coin is pretty interesting, it’s my 1909 VDB matte proof from the second die pair of matte proof Lincoln cents. A lot of people will disagree and say it’s not from the authenticated die pair, but there is a second matte proof Lincoln die pair. A lot of my information is from an article on the PCGS website about the second die pair. I’m not sure if the link will work but here it is</p><p><a href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/1909-matte-proof-new-coin-die-discovered" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/1909-matte-proof-new-coin-die-discovered" rel="nofollow">https://www.pcgs.com/news/1909-matte-proof-new-coin-die-discovered</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The most important information in that article is the list of die markers for this coin, but it also shows evidence of these proof coins existing even though they are not the known die pair of matte proof VDB cents.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my coin</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841178[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841179[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And here is the list of die markers</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841188[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is liberty. The MS67+ 1909 VDB cents all share the same doubling on LIBERTY when they are actually a matte proof that was wrongly graded because it didn’t have the die markers that are known.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841192[/ATTACH]</p><p>And here are the other LIBERTY devices on matte proofs from this die pair that are graded as mint state because of not having the known die pair markers. These matte proofs share this doubling</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841193[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>They also all have prominent lathe lines on the underside of Lincoln’s bust</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841194[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse die markers are very strong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Die scratch from M of UNUM going left to field</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841197[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a die scratch in the C of CENT</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841200[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Doubling in UNITED</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841196[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And of course the die chip at 3 o’clock</p><p>[ATTACH=full]841199[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I’ll hopefully get it graded as a proof soon. I hope![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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