My 1796 pieces of 8

thats why i got GD in we need to stop this mindless violence :hammer:

 

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You and my mother have very similar minds.
She wants to bonk me in the head to. :desk:

 

Cool thanks! I went into photobucket and rotated my pic to the way it is supposed to be. :goofer:
So are you saying I could get in the 250-400 range for mine, if mine IS real. :bigeyes: :hatch:

 

CRAP! :crying:
Whatever I consulted an expert of fake 8 reale coins, that lives in Russia, and he believes mine is real so that is a start.

 

It came in today and IMHO is real. The X on the back is like microscopic compared to the pics, Thank God.
It has amazing luster somehow.
Isn't there a way to put artificial luster on a coin though, I think it is called wizzing?
PCGS, SEGS, and ICG will be at F.U.N. so I might get it slabbed.
The coin looks really good and I will get pics of the edge of the coin etc. up later.

 

They started the genuine service.
So it will still get slabbed.

 

Ok it came in today and here is a pic of the rim.

 

The PCGS Authentic slabbing fees are outrageous and this coin isn't worth as much as they will charge so stick it in an airtitie and put what you save in your pocket.

Ribbit

 

Garrett, my feeling is that your coin is real. The appearance looks OK (but cleaned), as does the edge device. I have a few of these, and yours compares well. According the SCWC the coin should weigh 27 grams.
It is a fairly common date Mexico City mint. I don't think there is a danger that anybody would counterfeit this. You need to be careful however with the rarer dates and mints, for example Santiago and Popayan mints, as well as the 2-Mundos (previous 8 reales type) of all mints, which is generally very much sought by collectors.

 

Ok thank you! I figured it was cleaned.
It is my first colonial so whatever I like it.

 

If they'll counterfeit Ikes, they'll counterfeit anything. :goofer:

Ribbit

 

There's no way to put luster on a coin that I know of , whizzing evens out the surface and take the real cartwheel luster away , it's just a way to hide defects and make a coin look better to the untrained eye , take an uncirculated coin and lookat it under a light now tip it and turn it watching the shine move around sort of like spokes on a wheel that appear to be going backwards , that's cartwheel luster most easily seen on silver dollars .
rzage

 

Sorry to bump this thread back up but I got some peeps at ICG to look at it and the said it was real and a coin dealer who only sells spanish colonials thought it was real plus everyone else that looked at it at F.U.N. thought it was real.

 

OK, Freaky... coins can be wonderful historical artifacts, too. So, if you'd like, it's time for some homework...

Who was Carolus IIII and what does "Dei Gratia" mean?

Please, no one help Freaky; let him find out the answers on his own.

This "impulse buy" can actually turn into a purchase that you might enjoy more if you know about the subject depicted on the coin, the mottos, etc.

It's neat to look at old coins like this and think about what the people who used these coins thought of their leader. Was he a beloved king? Was he a tryant? Was he a war-monger or was he a peaceful man?

Just some things to consider...

 

Glad to hear you found some people to look at it directly- sounds like it's genuine. Congrats!

 

Not any more. They changed their process again and now if a coin is genuine but a problem coin they will not BB it but will put it a Genuine slab with no grade and a mention of the problem. Everything now gets slabbed except fakes and coins with active PVC Residue.

 

Here's another 1796 8-Reale, that doesn't look like yours. Either there were different die varieties or one or the other is fake. The Pieces-of-Eight are a heavily faked series. Note on this one the differences in the positioning of the lettering on the obverse vs yours. Also on the reverse of this the letters I and J are F and M on yours. I don't know what those letters are supposed to mean but the differences are there. Also note the different shaped 9 in the date.