Mutual Funds & ETFs: Buyers of Gold Coins ?

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  1. GoldFinger1969

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    Has anybody ever read if some of the (smaller) mutual funds and ETFs have purchased gold coins...specifically, Double Eagles (easiest to trade and count ounces)....as a substitute for other forms of bullion ?

    I've been looking but no luck so far.

    With all the investment-quality lower-graded coins, you would think there'd be a market for them in lieu of bullion bars or paper gold. Especially if they avoided the usual price premiums.
     
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  3. Santinidollar

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    My memory gets hazy, but I believe that Wall Street tried a fund of rare coins a number of years ago. I do believe it laid an egg.

    Is somebody’s memory on this better than mine?
     
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  4. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I've never heard of any of the gold ETFs indulging in coins or any physical gold for that matter. I thought they only dealt in gold futures and gold mining company stocks. But maybe check Vanguard, Fidelity, Schwab to see if they know of what you're looking for.
     
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  5. longnine009

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    I remember a rare coin fund around 1986 or 87. I believe they were a limited partnership. I can't find their name but I did find this:

    http://numismaticinvestmentsllc.com/

    ^Don't know anything about them.
     
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  6. GoldFinger1969

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    Hey Guys, thanks for chipping in.....but I'm not talking about a coin fund with NUMISMATIC coins. :D

    I'm talking about using generic gold coins -- Liberty's and Saints -- as a substitute for GOLD BULLION. So figure MS63 and below.

    The reason was when looking at a supply/demand analysis for gold coins/double eagles, I saw that there was probably HUNDREDS of thousands of excess low-grade Double Eagles available.

    So you are talking about $250,000,000 to maybe $2 billion in gold bullion via double eagle coins. Some mutual funds/ETFs say in their prospectus that they will not hold paper gold or stocks of gold mining companies, but the actual metal. I believe the Central Fund of Canada is one such fund/ETF.
     
  7. GoldFinger1969

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    OK, the Central Fund of Canada has been taken over by Sprott's fund family (CEF) and it's about $4 BB. IAU is $28 BB and GLD is $57 BB.

    So clearly....a decent-sized position of double eagles is viable for something like CEF, less so for IAU and GLD since they are much bigger. However, if their bullion holdings are maybe a percentage of the total assets, then maybe storing 1,000 - 2,000 bags of 250 ounces of coins is feasible. Larger bags mean fewer bags needed.
     
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