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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3145217, member: 112"]There is one primary thing at play here - definitions; but there are two separate issues involved. Issue one would be the definition of a mule, and issue two would be the decades old argument/debate of exactly what defines a variety and an error. Or perhaps more succinctly, the difference between the two.</p><p><br /></p><p>And as I've pointed out many times, when it comes to definitions people have a very strong tendency to choose the definition that most suits their own personal purposes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the definition of a mule, there are two:</p><p>1 - a coin that has been struck with obverse and reverse dies that were not originally intended to be used together.</p><p>2 - a rare Mint error where the obverse die is of one coin and the reverse die is of another coin. e.g. - where a Washington quarter obverse is paired with a Sacagawea reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first would be the one Jaelus is apparently talking about. At first glance, it is accurate, but it is far too broad for it completely ignores the aspect that in order for a coin to be a mule the obv must be of one type of coin and the rev of a completely different type of coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Jaelus points out with his comments -</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>- the first definition allows this to be true when the coins are not mules at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>But in no case could that be true were the second definition used. And I think that pretty much settles the question. For those who think it doesn't then I can see no other reason besides your wanting to call a coin a mule - when it isn't !</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the second issue of the difference between a variety and an error, that's not going to be settled here any more than it has been settled anywhere else. And again it's because people choose definitions to suit their own purposes. That said, I believe pretty much everybody considered mules to be an error.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3145217, member: 112"]There is one primary thing at play here - definitions; but there are two separate issues involved. Issue one would be the definition of a mule, and issue two would be the decades old argument/debate of exactly what defines a variety and an error. Or perhaps more succinctly, the difference between the two. And as I've pointed out many times, when it comes to definitions people have a very strong tendency to choose the definition that most suits their own personal purposes. Regarding the definition of a mule, there are two: 1 - a coin that has been struck with obverse and reverse dies that were not originally intended to be used together. 2 - a rare Mint error where the obverse die is of one coin and the reverse die is of another coin. e.g. - where a Washington quarter obverse is paired with a Sacagawea reverse. The first would be the one Jaelus is apparently talking about. At first glance, it is accurate, but it is far too broad for it completely ignores the aspect that in order for a coin to be a mule the obv must be of one type of coin and the rev of a completely different type of coin. As Jaelus points out with his comments - - the first definition allows this to be true when the coins are not mules at all. But in no case could that be true were the second definition used. And I think that pretty much settles the question. For those who think it doesn't then I can see no other reason besides your wanting to call a coin a mule - when it isn't ! As for the second issue of the difference between a variety and an error, that's not going to be settled here any more than it has been settled anywhere else. And again it's because people choose definitions to suit their own purposes. That said, I believe pretty much everybody considered mules to be an error.[/QUOTE]
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