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<p>[QUOTE="secretsquirrel, post: 42270, member: 1991"]I've seen some of these euro coins with Cent missing and they get listed as a mule. I don't believe these are mules unless this was a deliberate design for a different year other than that they were struck on. Partial missing design doesn't make a coin a mule.</p><p>Could they also have been the dies for a trial strike? As i don't collect euros i have no idea and the dealers i've sent mail to asking why the coin is a mule have all refused to reply.</p><p>Australia too has many coins with different die pairings.</p><p>1984, 85 & 86 5c for example have coins with the older (up to 83) smaller reverse design and also the latter 84 onwards large reverse design.</p><p>None of these are mules either even though the dies were meant to be changed. In cases like this the mints will use remaining stock of dies alongside the new ones to save on cost. The design is the correct one it's just that the size is different. I believe the only way we get real mules from circulation coins with the correct denomination die pairing is if one of those designs was a commem struck in a standard year, the other way around, or if there's been a change in design by adding or subtracting something and then the die was used in the wrong year.</p><p>Sorry sometimes i babble on and hope it came out right <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="secretsquirrel, post: 42270, member: 1991"]I've seen some of these euro coins with Cent missing and they get listed as a mule. I don't believe these are mules unless this was a deliberate design for a different year other than that they were struck on. Partial missing design doesn't make a coin a mule. Could they also have been the dies for a trial strike? As i don't collect euros i have no idea and the dealers i've sent mail to asking why the coin is a mule have all refused to reply. Australia too has many coins with different die pairings. 1984, 85 & 86 5c for example have coins with the older (up to 83) smaller reverse design and also the latter 84 onwards large reverse design. None of these are mules either even though the dies were meant to be changed. In cases like this the mints will use remaining stock of dies alongside the new ones to save on cost. The design is the correct one it's just that the size is different. I believe the only way we get real mules from circulation coins with the correct denomination die pairing is if one of those designs was a commem struck in a standard year, the other way around, or if there's been a change in design by adding or subtracting something and then the die was used in the wrong year. Sorry sometimes i babble on and hope it came out right :eek: :)[/QUOTE]
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