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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Severus Alexander, post: 3569914, member: 84744&quot;]Interesting post (thank you!) and a great example of Album-14.&nbsp; Which I lack, sadly!</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s my earliest Islamic coin, a rare Arab-Byzantine issue dated to the 640s or 650s (Album 3508X), right in that turbulent period you&#039;ve written about.&nbsp; It&#039;s overstruck on half of a Byzantine follis:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]950430[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s my Arab-Byzantine issued under Mu&#039;awiyah, in Hims (Emesa):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]950431[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>My earliest Arab-Sasanian is a coin of Ziyad from c. 670 (under Mu&#039;awiyah), the father of the issuer of [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]&#039;s coin:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]950432[/ATTACH] </p><p>Ziyad was rumored to be Abu Sufyan&#039;s son and so possibly Mu&#039;awiyah&#039;s half brother.&nbsp; He originally fought for Ali, but switched sides when the writing was on the wall.&nbsp; This coin was issued when Ziyad suppressed the Aliid rebellion in Kufa and added that city to his governorship.&nbsp; (In 671, Ziyad sent 50,000 troops to Merv, the basis for the eventual subjection of territories in central Asia.&nbsp; The turco-hephthalite countermarks were probably added after this coin was taken east by Ziyad&#039;s troops.)</p><p><br /></p><p>([USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]: I don&#039;t think Ziyad&#039;s son was ever declared Caliph.&nbsp; He inherited the eastern governorship from his father, and helped wipe out the Aliids.&nbsp; Are you maybe thinking of Abd Allah ibn Zubayr?)</p><p><br /></p><p>The Aliids kept soldiering on.&nbsp; Here&#039;s a coin issued by one of them (&#039;Abd Allah b. Mu&#039;awiya, the great grandson of Ali&#039;s brother) during the Abbasid revolution, dated 129 AH( 746-47), Album 206.1:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]950438[/ATTACH] </p><p>The Umayyads defeated him in battle, and then the Abbasids executed him.&nbsp; Those Aliids just couldn&#039;t catch a break! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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