MS70 on common coins?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by GH#75, May 12, 2020.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I was waiting for you to slide in this thread and make that point.

    The most dastardly example that comes to mind are Bust Halves. Finding original, high grade Bust Halves can be a fool's errand sometimes, but many of them, of course, have been properly cleaned.

    I've always seen the properly/improperly cleaned dichotomy as similar to market acceptable toning. There is a degree of cleaning that the majority of numismatists will seem to accept, and the same is true for some rainbows here and there. Now as for why we accept 18th and 19th century gold with hairlines running all over the place as "original" is beyond me.
     
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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    That's an interesting point, seeing as though NGC brands their coins with the "Improperly Cleaned" label.
     
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  4. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, this is almost a fools errand. I have seen many comments from reputable individuals who claim all coins, prior to some year, have been cleaned in some fashion because it is what was done in the days of yore.
     
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  5. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, this will never happen. Their services would suffer and we would be back to buying coins in two by two's.
     
  6. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    I recall several years back a guy I would see at local coin shows that had hundreds of coins were all glimmering white. After seeing him only five or six times he was never seen again. Probably figured out why nobody was buying his stuff.
     
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  7. whopper64

    whopper64 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone ever used a silver jewelry polishing cloth on their silver coins? Just wondering.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Heaven forbid!!!
     
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  9. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Yikes!!!
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Oh the horrors....
     
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  11. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Gadzooks!!!
     
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  12. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    Interesting that the MS70 bottle says "safe for copper" yet it turns copper coins blue and purple. I guess it depends on your definition of "safe?" :D

    I would never use anything like that on a coin that I cared even a little bit about. It might be fun to experiment on worthless coins just to see what the stuff does, but that's as far as I would ever go, and I doubt that I would ever even go that far.
     
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  13. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    I had a bunch (97) of extremely worn buffalo nickels. I used 'Nic-a-Date' to restore the date and mint mark. I found no, "Gee, I wish they were AU's or MS's" in the lot and no key dates either, but it was fun.
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Properly cleaned means you can't detect it, so shouldn't they just put it on all coins?
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    To give a full answer, a polishing cloth contains abrasives that will scratch the bejebers out of a surface. If you don't see it, use side light and tilt the object back and forth to see all the tiny scratch marks.
     
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  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I've done the same and I found a very worn, obviously to use nic a date, 1916 Buffalo over date. I figure since they're worn and have no date you can't hurt them. Yes it creates damage but what's one to do?
     
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  17. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Exactly my point and you can answer the obvious question of why you did it in the first place.
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Got it. Thanks
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I'm glad you did. So a car has a couple of dents. If it runs. Its still a car
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I gots to know (the date on that coin).
     
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  21. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Ya got me laughing hard again girl!
     
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