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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;brg5658, post: 2150325, member: 29751&quot;]As long as PCGS and NGC have existed they have used MS64.&nbsp; They didn&#039;t suddenly invent it mid-game.&nbsp; Sure, it wasn&#039;t used by dealers in the 70&#039;s, but it has existed in both of the TPGs for the duration of their grading lives.</p><p><br /></p><p>The * has nothing to do with numeric grade of a coin.&nbsp; It is an &quot;eye appeal&quot; designation used by NGC, and a coin graded with the * can be low-end for the assigned numeric grade.&nbsp; Not sure what your point was with that example.</p><p><br /></p><p>The &quot;+&quot; grading was added relatively recently (2010), but no one is forcing people to resubmit their coins in hopes of that little grade modifier.&nbsp; Furthermore, it has gained little traction in actually modifying the prices paid for such designated coins, except when the &quot;+&quot; is assigned to a coin already graded at the absolute top of the population.&nbsp; Again, as someone else already noted, these resubmissions are largely undertaken by <b>dealers</b>, not collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>In most (all?) cases, I don&#039;t think the dealers are resubmitting coins hoping for a &quot;+&quot; upgrade -- they are looking for the full numeric point upgrade.&nbsp; That&#039;s a game that lots of dealers play, but again, that&#039;s not a new <b>grading system </b>-- it&#039;s a capitalization on the inherent subjectivity of grading coins and the inconsistency of TPGs.&nbsp; Sure the &quot;+&quot; is a marketing tool -- but I think it has not led to any cash windfall of resubmissions hoping for a &quot;+&quot; -- I would guess that regrades have remained quite steady as there were plenty hoping for full point numeric upgrades before they introduced the &quot;half step +&quot; stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>So back to the original topic -- you said &quot;<b>MS70 collectors, get ready for a beat down</b>&quot;.&nbsp; The argument many of us have made was that the article is somewhat far-fetched in terms of proposing a new grading system.&nbsp; You then give examples of changes to some minuscule grading nuances -- but nothing similar to changing the base-70 <u>system</u>.&nbsp; I&#039;m not following how the introduction of a &quot;+&quot; logically leads to an assumption that TPGs would be willing to introduce MS71 grades.&nbsp; That leap in rationale doesn&#039;t compute with me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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