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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1409851, member: 15309"]Frankly, in order for NGC to grade this coin, they would need historical precedent that coins minted during this era from Denmark still showed adjustment marks. Either that or the lines are not as severe as they appear in the photo and are actually planchet striations which are known on these coins. Either way, they had to have a damn good reason to put it in one of their slabs given it's obvious condition and your assumption that they screwed up wreaks of arrogance considering that all you have seen is a crappy photo of the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f5%2f9%2f2%2f1%2f5921225.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f5%2f9%2f2%2f1%2f5921227.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roller%20Marks/Denmark20KronerRev.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Your whole argument boils down to your contention that no mint in the world used the practice of manually adjusting planchet weights in the year 1900. And we should believe you simply because you say so? Perhaps if you could provide a supporting reference to support your claim, then we could give more credence to your assertion. I understand the need for adjustment marks and the technological advancements in the minting process that made them unnecessary in the mid 1800's. But I can't conclusively say that these technological advancements were adopted by every mint, including the Danish mint in Copenhagen. And if they were, then the new technological advancement would bring the possibility of planchet striations into play.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I don't believe the lines are adjustment marks. I think they are roller marks, or planchet striations, or whatever terminology you would like to use, but I do think they lines are mint made and not PMD. The lines appear to perfectly parallel to my eyes in order to call them adjustment marks. The fact that NGC saw this coin in hand and determined the lines to be mint made speaks volumes IMO. BTW, what do you propose in the course of PMD is responsible for creating such perfectly parallel lines on only one side of the coin?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1409851, member: 15309"]Frankly, in order for NGC to grade this coin, they would need historical precedent that coins minted during this era from Denmark still showed adjustment marks. Either that or the lines are not as severe as they appear in the photo and are actually planchet striations which are known on these coins. Either way, they had to have a damn good reason to put it in one of their slabs given it's obvious condition and your assumption that they screwed up wreaks of arrogance considering that all you have seen is a crappy photo of the coin. [img]http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f5%2f9%2f2%2f1%2f5921225.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d[/img][img]http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f5%2f9%2f2%2f1%2f5921227.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d[/img] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roller%20Marks/Denmark20KronerRev.jpg[/IMG] Your whole argument boils down to your contention that no mint in the world used the practice of manually adjusting planchet weights in the year 1900. And we should believe you simply because you say so? Perhaps if you could provide a supporting reference to support your claim, then we could give more credence to your assertion. I understand the need for adjustment marks and the technological advancements in the minting process that made them unnecessary in the mid 1800's. But I can't conclusively say that these technological advancements were adopted by every mint, including the Danish mint in Copenhagen. And if they were, then the new technological advancement would bring the possibility of planchet striations into play. Personally, I don't believe the lines are adjustment marks. I think they are roller marks, or planchet striations, or whatever terminology you would like to use, but I do think they lines are mint made and not PMD. The lines appear to perfectly parallel to my eyes in order to call them adjustment marks. The fact that NGC saw this coin in hand and determined the lines to be mint made speaks volumes IMO. BTW, what do you propose in the course of PMD is responsible for creating such perfectly parallel lines on only one side of the coin?[/QUOTE]
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