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Message:: [QUOTE="clembo, post: 519131, member: 8033"]Certainly not intended that way Ruben I can assure you. Just calling them like I see them and asking a legit question of members. Since we're on the subject though I have noticed, at times, that you like Ike Dollars. To a guy like me these are "modern" but compared to what is "modern" now they're getting "old". Kinda scary actually. I doth digress though. Now considering the Ikes' last mintage was in 1978 before the "TPG revolution" they were slabbed after the fact as it were. What grades would we see if they were being slabbed as First Strike in 1978? How would they hold out in a slab? I ask this because I've seen SO MANY "Brown Ikes" and usually they have a nice haze going on. This past Sunday I looked a collection of a friend's mother (who passed away). Lots of Ikes including 5 73-S brown Ikes. All had some hazing. I wouldn't touch the hazed Ikes, however, I would consider some of the Uncs. Very clean surfaces in original packaging actually.MS70? No way. MS69 no way. MS66-67? - a definite possibility. The sets were well kept and only 30 or so years old but technology was different then and no TPGs to be found. So back to the original gist. I'd take an MS67 Ike over an MS70 Presidential Dollar any day and have a better shot at explaining why it merited (or didn't) the grade.[/QUOTE]