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Message:: [QUOTE="V. Kurt Bellman, post: 1982141, member: 71723"]Yes, but that includes mostly coins submitted somewhat more contemporaneous with issue, and/or cherrypicked nice examples. Are you suggesting the Statue of Liberty or garden variety proof coins from the 1970's still out there in dealers' junk boxes are nearly a guaranteed 69 even now? Because I genuinely don't believe that. I see a ton I would be hard-pressed to give a 66. For example, I have no idea what PCGS would do with a typical milky "brown Ike", but if you're telling me they're getting 69's, then shame on them! On the other hand, if you asked me to select 5 junk sets from a 1980's era year and ASSEMBLE a PR69 set at any decent coin show, yup, THAT I could do in 5-10 minutes. True 'nuff. There's "selection bias" in those pop reports, Vic. Most people don't send in the stinkers for grading.[/QUOTE]