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<p>[QUOTE="Mat, post: 3080923, member: 21445"]Poppaea</p><p><br /></p><p>A would be mom, but Nero had other plans.</p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>The cause and timing of Poppaea's death is uncertain. According to Suetonius, while she was awaiting the birth of her second child in the summer of 65, she quarreled fiercely with Nero over his spending too much time at the races. In a fit of rage, Nero kicked her in the abdomen, causing her death.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-8" rel="nofollow">[8]</a> Tacitus, on the other hand, places the death after the Quinquennial Neronia and claims Nero's kick was a "casual outburst." Tacitus also mentions that some writers (now lost) claimed Nero poisoned her, though Tacitus does not believe them.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-9" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-9" rel="nofollow">[9]</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Dio" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Dio" rel="nofollow">Cassius Dio</a> claims Nero leapt upon her belly, but admitted that he did not know if it was intentional or accidental.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-10" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-10" rel="nofollow">[10]</a> Modern historians, though, keep in mind Suetonius', Tacitus', and Cassius Dio's severe biases against Nero and the impossibility of their knowing private events, and hence recognize that Poppaea may have died due to fatal complications of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage" rel="nofollow">miscarriage</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stillbirth" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stillbirth" rel="nofollow">stillbirth</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-11" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-11" rel="nofollow">[11]</a></i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>When Poppaea died in 65, Nero went into deep mourning. Poppaea's body was not cremated but embalmed after the Egyptian fashion. She was given a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral" rel="nofollow">state funeral</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_(ancient_Rome)#Divus,_deus_and_the_numen" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_(ancient_Rome)#Divus,_deus_and_the_numen" rel="nofollow">divine honors</a>, and entombed in an as yet unidentified "Tomb of the Julii". Nero supposedly burned a year's worth of Arabia's incense production at her funeral.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttps%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252Fproxy.php%252525253Fimage%252525253Dhttps%25252525253A%25252525252F%25252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252Fproxy.php%25252525253Fimage%25252525253Dhttp%2525252525253A%2525252525252F%2525252525252Fs4.postimg.org%2525252525252Fffu58b4d9%2525252525252Fpope.jpg%252525252526hash%25252525253Dc5af9c4893c47edc44fe88fd754aa438%2525252526hash%252525253D57cedb767204edfae9e20898c0a053fa%25252526hash%2525253D5dbcef0a0c5bac1c772cc782dd3038c8%252526hash%25253D9efc1644a8c884af9c75a2dc4b3e10c3%2526hash%253Ddbb52db858c8639d11c72716ad43a167%26hash%3D0ff9515446a01514709b1da758195307&hash=51c0af12b50013d1b7c096f31f85b87e" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></i></b></p><p>Poppaea (63 - 65 A.D.)</p><p>Billon tetradrachm</p><p>O: NEPΩ KΛAY KAIΣ ΣEB ΓEP AY, radiate head right.</p><p>R.ΠOΠΠAIA ΣEBAΣTH, draped bust of Poppaea right, date LI right (year 10).</p><p>Alexandria mint 63 - 64 A.D.</p><p>12.5g</p><p>25mm</p><p>Milne 216, Curtis 132, RPC I 5275, Geissen 157</p><p><br /></p><p>Ex HJB</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Mat, post: 3080923, member: 21445"]Poppaea A would be mom, but Nero had other plans. [B][I] The cause and timing of Poppaea's death is uncertain. According to Suetonius, while she was awaiting the birth of her second child in the summer of 65, she quarreled fiercely with Nero over his spending too much time at the races. In a fit of rage, Nero kicked her in the abdomen, causing her death.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-8'][8][/URL] Tacitus, on the other hand, places the death after the Quinquennial Neronia and claims Nero's kick was a "casual outburst." Tacitus also mentions that some writers (now lost) claimed Nero poisoned her, though Tacitus does not believe them.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-9'][9][/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Dio']Cassius Dio[/URL] claims Nero leapt upon her belly, but admitted that he did not know if it was intentional or accidental.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-10'][10][/URL] Modern historians, though, keep in mind Suetonius', Tacitus', and Cassius Dio's severe biases against Nero and the impossibility of their knowing private events, and hence recognize that Poppaea may have died due to fatal complications of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage']miscarriage[/URL] or [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stillbirth']stillbirth[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppaea_Sabina#cite_note-11'][11][/URL] When Poppaea died in 65, Nero went into deep mourning. Poppaea's body was not cremated but embalmed after the Egyptian fashion. She was given a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral']state funeral[/URL] and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_(ancient_Rome)#Divus,_deus_and_the_numen']divine honors[/URL], and entombed in an as yet unidentified "Tomb of the Julii". Nero supposedly burned a year's worth of Arabia's incense production at her funeral. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttps%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%252525252Fproxy.php%252525253Fimage%252525253Dhttps%25252525253A%25252525252F%25252525252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252525252Fproxy.php%25252525253Fimage%25252525253Dhttp%2525252525253A%2525252525252F%2525252525252Fs4.postimg.org%2525252525252Fffu58b4d9%2525252525252Fpope.jpg%252525252526hash%25252525253Dc5af9c4893c47edc44fe88fd754aa438%2525252526hash%252525253D57cedb767204edfae9e20898c0a053fa%25252526hash%2525253D5dbcef0a0c5bac1c772cc782dd3038c8%252526hash%25253D9efc1644a8c884af9c75a2dc4b3e10c3%2526hash%253Ddbb52db858c8639d11c72716ad43a167%26hash%3D0ff9515446a01514709b1da758195307&hash=51c0af12b50013d1b7c096f31f85b87e[/IMG][/I][/B] Poppaea (63 - 65 A.D.) Billon tetradrachm O: NEPΩ KΛAY KAIΣ ΣEB ΓEP AY, radiate head right. R.ΠOΠΠAIA ΣEBAΣTH, draped bust of Poppaea right, date LI right (year 10). Alexandria mint 63 - 64 A.D. 12.5g 25mm Milne 216, Curtis 132, RPC I 5275, Geissen 157 Ex HJB [B][I][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
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