Most you ever paid for a coin/ World survey

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by panzerman, Mar 29, 2022.

  1. Stork

    Stork I deliver

    I would be happy to relieve you of that one :D. It's the one Prova I would drop money on. Now that I am happily unemployed that might be more of a challenge.

    My highest price was Albanian too. Not a prova, but likely more along the lines of a trial if I had to guess. The fasces mark was only included on the first 100 struck (the fasces was due to being struck at the Italian mint, but not included on later pieces or other designs). One of the early, and Italian printed, notes was withdrawn for having an eagle design that was 'too Italian' according to an Albanian text from their bank, so that is plausible.

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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I was unemployed/ now back at it/ full bore:D. I find nobody quibbles about the prices this Spring. People seem to have lots of $$$ to spend on lawn/ garden care....
     
  4. Guilder Pincher

    Guilder Pincher Well-Known Member

    I bought this coin, Netherlands 2.5 gulden 1840, when I returned to the hobby in 2016 and had some money to burn from selling stuff from my previous hobby. After six years, it remains the most expensive coin I ever bought at €475. It's also the rarest in my collection with a mintage of just over 44,000. I have always loved the portrait of the aged king Willem I, I feel it captures his personality really well: an arrogant king, embittered and unwilling to accept the changes in the political reality of the time. Frustrated by the unwillingness of the public and the political elite to accept his whims as they used to, he abdicated on October 7, 1840 and left the country for Berlin, never to return. He died there in 1843. Most coins of this type were in fact struck after his abdication, requiring royal assent from his son and heir Willem II for the mint to be allowed to strike them. Many of these tend to show heavy corrosion and a die crack above Willem's head along the beaded edge, which makes me suspect only one set of working dies was ever made. They were used until Willem II's obverse dies were ready in 1841.

    Specs: Netherlands, 2.5 gulden 1840, .945 silver, 25 grams, 38 mm. Km #67.
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  5. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    Wow, you really are into the Dutch coins. So am I, though you got me beat. I see a gap in my silver from 1794 to 1854, so no Willem I (yet). I was fortunate to buy a lot of 2 1/2 gulden coins a few years back for fairly cheap prices. I am sure they are much higher now, as are all coins.
    Thanks for posting this one; it is a very handsome coin and I hope to find a similar example for my meager collection.
     
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  6. Guilder Pincher

    Guilder Pincher Well-Known Member

    475 euros was actually a steal for this coin even back in 2016. Prices have risen steeply on many coins, though not as much on 2 1/2 gulden coins as on the earlier 3 gulden coins. Some of Willem I's fractional coinage is still affordable, though they don't have a portrait if that's what you're looking for. The 10 cents 1827 minted in Utrecht still pops up regularly in good condition for below 100 euros for example. Willem II's 2 1/2 gulden coins have always been kinda expensive as well, especially the pre-1846 ones which "suffer" from low mintages.. and Wilhelmina's 2 1/2 guldens have more or less doubled in price since 2016, at least the dealer prices have.
     
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  7. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I was happy to pick up this "grof haar" example from a favorite seller in the low countries a couple years back. I should take a better photo of it.

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  8. Silverpop

    Silverpop Well-Known Member

    all my coins that i have bought are under $90
     
  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    $300,a few weeks ago,it's #1 now. Screenshot_20221223-195623_Photos.jpg Screenshot_20221223-195612_Photos.jpg
     
  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    In 2022 I added 95 AV coins to my collection/ and 7 MS Roman AR Denari.

    Most I paid fo a coin this year was 6K Euros for a super rare AV Dukat ND/ Ivan V/ Potr I under Regent Sophia/ 1682-95.
    Its a NOVODEL ( a few were struck from the original die/ St. Petersburg Mint/ 1725-45 for Imperial Czarist nobles that were into numismatics) Originals of early Imperial gold are unique or known only from restruck novodels. For most Novodels under 10 ex. known. So in other words much rarer then the $23M 1933 Double Eagle (17 known and counting);) It was an "unsold" lot in Vienna Auction/ Imagine what it would fetch in CNG/ Heritage/ Stacks Auction. I have ONLY seen this ex. in my collecting days. Stacks sold one 15 years ago for $55K/ 82c44f7689a345681911944368fe1324 (2).jpg
     
  11. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    This is the case for a few world coins that I know that are of a higher absolute rarity than some more well-known U.S. coin rarities. Prices are all about market demand...
    That's an incredible example. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  12. 7Jags

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  13. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    You are 100 percent right. US collectors have been complaining for past twenty years about the US coin market values stagnation/ decline. Well, most US coinage was vastly overpriced in the "Red Book" Seems in past 20 years/ World coinage is beginning to catch up/ however still far behind the US trends. Example/ a 1796 Rostock AV Dukat 1796 (mintage 200) I bought a MS-61 ex. for 3500 euros/ there are less then 20 known. Imagine a US coin of same status.
    John
     
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  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    So far/ I have NEVER sold a coin. I am basically in the hobby for the fun of collecting....NOT as a investor/ speculator. I love the history/ the allure of beautifull coinage. My fav. are Baroque era coin designs. However I collect from earliest Archaic electrum City State coinage 625BC to 1900s. I do have some modern issues from Countries that still produce classical motifs like the United Kingdom/ my fav. modern proof sets are the 1969 Biafra 5 piece set.
    Even when I am out there cutting clients lawns/ I always have auctions/ coins on my mind.:D:D:D:D:D:D

    EL Hekte (1/6 Stater) ND 500BC
    Mysia/ Kyzikos
    Greek City State/ Asia Minor.
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  15. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Ah, yes I seem to recall your recounting the purchase of the Biafra coin which is likely the nicest I have ever seen (I too some years got this set piece by piece and while nice don't hold a candle to yours). The hekte piece is outstanding and maybe worthy of a blowup picture with framing.
     
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  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Its funny/ the Biafra set was my first serious coin purchase. Up till then, I was just finished highschool and worked for a lawncare outfit. I remember seeing the ad in Coin World, a Swiss coin dealership had some of the sets struck by Valcambi Mint. Since Biafra by then was extinct/ they were trying to sell off the remaining numbered sets at $1100US @
    I had that in the bank so I ordered it. The rest is history/ that set got me off to a beautifull start in numismatics. I am glad to share the hobby with all my wonderfull friends in CT:) Wishing You and all cointalkers a Wonderfull Christmas!
    John
     
  17. mlov43

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    I believe those "Valcambi Mint" coins like Biafra and others like that were all produced by Italcambio in the 1970s. I have not found any direct links between Valcambi and Italcambio, but I know that Italcambio organized these coins' production at European state mints and marketed them worldwide. It is only outside people (editors of coin catalogs?) that claimed some of these coins were minted by Valcambi. I've attempted to contact Valcambi about this, but they don't respond.
     
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  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    To date $3,600 for this beauty :) but that
    will be changing probably in a few weeks.
     
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