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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4395373, member: 19463"]Was Postumus a threat to the Empire as a whole or just recognition that the idea Diocletian later introduced was needed then. Gallienus was spread too thin. Postumus was not trying to take over the whole Empire but just his corner of the world. Later, Carausius and Allectus tried the same thing and would have succeeded had Diocletian not have delegated the West to Maximianus. In the beginning, Rome was just a part of Italy. At the end, the Byzantine Empire was just inside the walls of Constantinople. Between the two we have a constant flux as to what was Roman and what was under local control whether client states or independent neighbors/enemies. Gallienus probably thought he was entitled to rule the world because Trajan had. He was wrong. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I can't go so far as Ras does in that last line. Killing your family members to advance your personal position was standard operating procedure in many periods. Hanging the old fool out to dry is hardly an impeachable offence by ancient standards. If he didn't want to be a footstool, he should have not been captured. By ancient/medieval standards, the worst of our modern rulers would be considered weaklings and pushovers asking to be overthrown. Bastards? Psychopaths? No. Realists well suited to their times? Probably.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4395373, member: 19463"]Was Postumus a threat to the Empire as a whole or just recognition that the idea Diocletian later introduced was needed then. Gallienus was spread too thin. Postumus was not trying to take over the whole Empire but just his corner of the world. Later, Carausius and Allectus tried the same thing and would have succeeded had Diocletian not have delegated the West to Maximianus. In the beginning, Rome was just a part of Italy. At the end, the Byzantine Empire was just inside the walls of Constantinople. Between the two we have a constant flux as to what was Roman and what was under local control whether client states or independent neighbors/enemies. Gallienus probably thought he was entitled to rule the world because Trajan had. He was wrong. I can't go so far as Ras does in that last line. Killing your family members to advance your personal position was standard operating procedure in many periods. Hanging the old fool out to dry is hardly an impeachable offence by ancient standards. If he didn't want to be a footstool, he should have not been captured. By ancient/medieval standards, the worst of our modern rulers would be considered weaklings and pushovers asking to be overthrown. Bastards? Psychopaths? No. Realists well suited to their times? Probably.[/QUOTE]
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