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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5429766, member: 110504&quot;]...You can see the same kind of dynamic in all kinds of European painting and sculpture, from the period of Mannerism (late phases of the Renaissance; c. later 16th century), all the way to the cloyingly idealized &#039;naturalism&#039; of of &#039;academic&#039; /Salon painting of later 19th-century France, which it took the Impressionists to finally bring down.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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