I'm only trying to get some of these kids to use a little common sense. Since you know so much about criminals, please explain to me why someone would murder a victim over a $20 robbery. Chris
I think you're comparing (bad) apples to oranges. The wily ISP-tracker-downer operates in a different socioeconomic sphere than a crack addict. And I wonder if "these kids" would be able to amass an enviable coin collection if they didn't also cultivate some common sense along the way.
So, "apples" are the addicts who would do anything for a fix, and "oranges" are the common criminals who never use a computer. Is that what you're claiming? Chris
If security is a concern with your IP address I would suggest either acquiring software that will hide your IP address like Hide IP or learn to configure a proxy server on your browser. Lists of proxy IPs are available at certain sites just Google it. In order to get your IP address, they must first be able to gain administrative privileges of this forum. If the administrative password is complex and not a common word using a variety of characters, this could take some time. Your IP address is only yours for a short period and changes once you shut your computer or router down. In order to gain access on who used that IP address they would have to hack into your ISPs network which I am sure has many security measures in place. These tasks are not small ones and a common thief may have a difficult time with them. There is a level of anonymity on the web and gaining information about who is where is not an easy task but can be done but masking your IP address does make that much more difficult. I took 3 computer security courses in graduate school. The task you are talking about is not impossible but difficult and that would make you wonder how likely it would happen. You are much likely to have the stolen by a "friend" or relative or something who knows who you are and what you got. This person would be easy to track down though. Although computer hackers do things that are unethical and criminal, they do not seem the type to be tracking down coin collectors, they would sooner open up a credit card in your name and charge away.
It is worth mentioning that while people might respond to threads such as this truthfully, the potential thief has no way of knowing if the collector still owns the coin. The thread asks what is the most you ever paid for a coin, not the most you paid for a coin that you still own. Now that would be a rude question IMO.
I'm not really sure what you're asking. I'm also not sure what relationship you're implying, in your earlier post, between the original "safety" topic that emerged in this thread—that revealing one's valuable coins could somehow lead to one's home address being tracked down, presumably by seasoned hackers (and about which several posts have mysteriously disappeared)—and the example of a senseless murder of someone over $20.
cpm9ball (and anyone else for that matter ) is just as much at risk as anyone else for even posting on a coin forum.
The most I paid for any coin was whatever I paid the mint for the 1999 $5 Washington Gold commem. Roughly 200 bux. I don't have the coin anymore. I liquidated my expensive stuff to start my business some years back.
I know what you mean. Anytime you let someone else know what you have you are at risk. I went to the bank today to get some rolls and the teller asked me what I want it for. I told him to for my collection and discussed him various coins I collect and some that I buy. I thought to myself, why did I just give him all this information, about pre-Civil War coins I bought recently? There was a customer behind me who could have heard but fortunately the area is a suburban area where people could care less about my coins although they may find it interesting especially the bank employees since they deal with currency all day. I don't believe that discussing coins with banks to be a threat but there is a real slight risk you open up to anytime you disclose what you have. As I mentioned though, the amount of technical expertise it would take to find out who your are isn't exactly skills that a common thief would have. I know someone wanted to buy a wheat cent and wanted to send me cash in the mail instead of using Paypal and I was reluctant even though I don't exactly have the most valuable collection here. I just started buying coins in March using money from gifts for my birthday, graduation, whatever.
Agreed; now buying and selling on eBay is another matter entirely. I had an issue with a substantial sale to someone in Florida who (upon investigation) turned out to be a member of a 'crime family' who was laundering money by buying gold and silver coins on eBay. To the tune of several hundred thousand dollars in a single month. Not the sort of person you want having your home address. Fortunately I could refer him to my lawyer and that shut him right up. Live and learn though. PS: Please don't anyone suggest turning someone like that in to eBay. First of all, you don't want eBay or PayPal telling him you did it, either 'by accident' or otherwise; and secondly neither eBay nor PayPal is likely to take action against someone generating those kinds of fees.