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<p>[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 86721, member: 4381"]Well</p><p><br /></p><p>I've had an interesting day in this regard. I've brought 3 new Morgans today from 2 different dealers in Brooklyn. First, let me tell you that the coin dealers themselves are an interesting lot. I went to three dealers today. One guy had really no coins in the place of business but brought coins and was willing to take a list of coins I might want (PS - I never know what I want). His establishment was in the basement of a storefront building in Brooklyn and you had to access it from the back door inside the deli and walk down the stairs.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second guy I had to actually wake up from a storefront on Avenue U. He was in perhaps his early 60's. He was a friendly sort of fellow who said in the middle of conversation, (to a new potential customer no less ), "I said NO, which part of 'No' didn't you understand?". To which I tunred around to him and said, well, my question is not the meaning of 'no' but what are say 'no' to? The price or the availablity fo the piece?"</p><p><br /></p><p>I brought two pieces from him which I think I got a decent price for.</p><p><br /></p><p>The third fellow was just a couple of blocks away. He is close to blind maybe in his early '80's. I recognized him as having a shop at one time in the late 1970's in Brooklyn near the juction. He had a decent selection available in the very old shop. I'm sure I over paid for a Morgan which I'll describe in a second.</p><p><br /></p><p>So let me tell you what I brought. From the second fellow, the one who told me "NO", I got two coins, both Morgans.. One is a raw 1884 Morgan, reflective luster but not mirror like with a few small lines in it, but no vissiable wear that I can see. There 'might' be a little wear on the lock of hair abive the ear. He insisted the coin is an AU 58 and sold it to me for 18 dollars. I don't see this coin as less than a MS 62. But what do I know. I sure do like the coin and if it was all I brought today, I'd be happy.</p><p><br /></p><p>The next one he sold me was an NGC slab of a 1896 Morgan labled MS 63. This coin is mirror like at least 2 inches from the coins face. I see nothing but a few scratch marks from it even under the magnifying glass and no wear. This coin cost me 55 dollars with the NGC slab. The NGC slab says nothing about the proof like reflectivitiy, just MS63. I would have thought this coin at least MS 64. It does seem to have a scratch in the obverse near the nose in the black field. This coin is $60 in the red book.</p><p><br /></p><p>The third coin I brought from the third deal, the old man. I brough this coin mostly because i commited to him yesterday, and felt a little bad for him being in the sotre alone at such an advanced age, barely able to see. It's a real scene out of "Death of a Salesman". This is a 1887 MS 64, again slabbed by NGC. This coin does not have a mirror like reflection, but it is nearly flawless from scratches wich just the lightest in the Neck of liberty and a couple of surface scratches above and below, "In God We Trust" on the reverse. Extremely clean otherwise. I overpaid for this coin, paying $100 when it books for $60. Overall though, its luster is not that of the one I spent $18.</p><p><br /></p><p>OK</p><p><br /></p><p>So three coins all in similar cost ranges I paid from $18 - $100.</p><p><br /></p><p>So My point is, I have no faith in any of this at the moment. My faith in grading claims on line is very skeptical at this time. Even in person, I hve no idea what I'm buying. Forget about on line.</p><p><br /></p><p>That being said I like</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.harlanjberk.com/unitedstatesco/details.asp?inventorynumber=24824&title=Morgan+Dollar&inventorygroup=us&linenum=36" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.harlanjberk.com/unitedstatesco/details.asp?inventorynumber=24824&title=Morgan+Dollar&inventorygroup=us&linenum=36" rel="nofollow">http://www.harlanjberk.com/unitedstatesco/details.asp?inventorynumber=24824&title=Morgan+Dollar&inventorygroup=us&linenum=36</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>and</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.vcoins.com/us/copperpenny/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=15" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vcoins.com/us/copperpenny/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=15" rel="nofollow">http://www.vcoins.com/us/copperpenny/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=15</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 86721, member: 4381"]Well I've had an interesting day in this regard. I've brought 3 new Morgans today from 2 different dealers in Brooklyn. First, let me tell you that the coin dealers themselves are an interesting lot. I went to three dealers today. One guy had really no coins in the place of business but brought coins and was willing to take a list of coins I might want (PS - I never know what I want). His establishment was in the basement of a storefront building in Brooklyn and you had to access it from the back door inside the deli and walk down the stairs. The second guy I had to actually wake up from a storefront on Avenue U. He was in perhaps his early 60's. He was a friendly sort of fellow who said in the middle of conversation, (to a new potential customer no less ), "I said NO, which part of 'No' didn't you understand?". To which I tunred around to him and said, well, my question is not the meaning of 'no' but what are say 'no' to? The price or the availablity fo the piece?" I brought two pieces from him which I think I got a decent price for. The third fellow was just a couple of blocks away. He is close to blind maybe in his early '80's. I recognized him as having a shop at one time in the late 1970's in Brooklyn near the juction. He had a decent selection available in the very old shop. I'm sure I over paid for a Morgan which I'll describe in a second. So let me tell you what I brought. From the second fellow, the one who told me "NO", I got two coins, both Morgans.. One is a raw 1884 Morgan, reflective luster but not mirror like with a few small lines in it, but no vissiable wear that I can see. There 'might' be a little wear on the lock of hair abive the ear. He insisted the coin is an AU 58 and sold it to me for 18 dollars. I don't see this coin as less than a MS 62. But what do I know. I sure do like the coin and if it was all I brought today, I'd be happy. The next one he sold me was an NGC slab of a 1896 Morgan labled MS 63. This coin is mirror like at least 2 inches from the coins face. I see nothing but a few scratch marks from it even under the magnifying glass and no wear. This coin cost me 55 dollars with the NGC slab. The NGC slab says nothing about the proof like reflectivitiy, just MS63. I would have thought this coin at least MS 64. It does seem to have a scratch in the obverse near the nose in the black field. This coin is $60 in the red book. The third coin I brought from the third deal, the old man. I brough this coin mostly because i commited to him yesterday, and felt a little bad for him being in the sotre alone at such an advanced age, barely able to see. It's a real scene out of "Death of a Salesman". This is a 1887 MS 64, again slabbed by NGC. This coin does not have a mirror like reflection, but it is nearly flawless from scratches wich just the lightest in the Neck of liberty and a couple of surface scratches above and below, "In God We Trust" on the reverse. Extremely clean otherwise. I overpaid for this coin, paying $100 when it books for $60. Overall though, its luster is not that of the one I spent $18. OK So three coins all in similar cost ranges I paid from $18 - $100. So My point is, I have no faith in any of this at the moment. My faith in grading claims on line is very skeptical at this time. Even in person, I hve no idea what I'm buying. Forget about on line. That being said I like [url]http://www.harlanjberk.com/unitedstatesco/details.asp?inventorynumber=24824&title=Morgan+Dollar&inventorygroup=us&linenum=36[/url] and [url]http://www.vcoins.com/us/copperpenny/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=15[/url][/QUOTE]
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