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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1185477, member: 112"]I don't deny that it was the collar used that caused the wire rim coins. But they chose that collar and used it. That is what makes it intentional. Now they may not have liked the outcome, I don't deny that either. But it's still entirely different from what is called finning. The wire edge coins have that wire edge all the way around the coin, it is uniform. A coin with finning does not.</p><p><br /></p><p>What's more, coins that have finning were struck with the very same dies and the very same collars as coins that do not have any finning. The only difference was that the striking pressure was adjusted higher, and/or a planchet that was a bit too thick got used. And when this happened it was then that metal was forced up between the collar and the edge of the die resulting in the fin. And as I said earlier, coins with finning only have the fin in some places. And the fin is not uniform. Never once have I ever seen or heard of one that had a fin all the way around the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can say it's semantics if you want, but it isn't. It's proper terminolgy. It's kind of like calling a coin that has die abrasion marks a coin with coin die polishing marks. They are two entirely different things caused by two entirely different processes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1185477, member: 112"]I don't deny that it was the collar used that caused the wire rim coins. But they chose that collar and used it. That is what makes it intentional. Now they may not have liked the outcome, I don't deny that either. But it's still entirely different from what is called finning. The wire edge coins have that wire edge all the way around the coin, it is uniform. A coin with finning does not. What's more, coins that have finning were struck with the very same dies and the very same collars as coins that do not have any finning. The only difference was that the striking pressure was adjusted higher, and/or a planchet that was a bit too thick got used. And when this happened it was then that metal was forced up between the collar and the edge of the die resulting in the fin. And as I said earlier, coins with finning only have the fin in some places. And the fin is not uniform. Never once have I ever seen or heard of one that had a fin all the way around the coin. You can say it's semantics if you want, but it isn't. It's proper terminolgy. It's kind of like calling a coin that has die abrasion marks a coin with coin die polishing marks. They are two entirely different things caused by two entirely different processes.[/QUOTE]
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