The bottoms of the letters on the comp also look a little cupped...if I had it weighed would that solve the riddle, or are fakes minted with identical weights?
Weighing it is a good test, but there are good fakes out there. Some are silver, some will have the correct weight. Perhaps I condemned the lettering too quickly, it struck me as looking strange but I am not an expert. Hopefully it is fine, it is a really nice looking Morgan if it is real.
It appears to be a vam 14.1 but if it's not clashed its a super rare version. While I don't really see the neck clash I might see a hint of the clash above the wing and a hint of the cap clash on the reverse. The pics may be obscuring the clashing though. If it's an unclashed 14.1 it's a big winner. Of its the clashed 14.1a it's not.
I think it is genuine. Hard to say from those pictures, but if it is a fake, it is an incredibly good one. If it is real, and I cannot say so definitively from the pictures, then I think it is a 65. Not positive on genuineness.
That's part of my problem. What kind of eBay seller sends a coin like this for 25 bucks? Even if he missed the 8TF, that coin looks like a nice MS Morgan.
looks genuine to me. The reverse lettering is normal as compared to several 8tf's I did a quick comp with on VAMWorld. Other features appear to be correct as well.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the input on this coin so far. This has been a very informative evening. This forum is clearly filled with some good folks.
Its definitely genuine,, if i were u, i would empty out my bank account and buy as many Morgans from this seller that you can afford!!!!! You WILL make $$ on this coin, as long as its not cleaned you should make atleast $250. Like i said, order more asap!
If its really that important send it in to anacs will be the cheapest to test to be genuine. Im really leary listening to opinions based on photos unless obvious fake. I just had a chinese 1$ i purchased that many said was fake because it had nice details and a good purchase price i sent it to pcgs and was genuine.
You would be surprised, i know of a guy who purchases bulk lots of silver from a pawn shop for 18x face or so. Neither he or the pawn shop owner cares to learn numismatics. They are essentially bullion dealers and if granny shows up with grandpas coin hoard then its hard to say what might slip through the cracks. Ebay dude could be a bfe pawn shop owner and this is how he liquidates his coins, well atleast thats 1 possibilty for such stupidity. Not every pawn broker is Rick Harrison
It may not hurt to take it to your local coin shop and ask them to look at it and weigh it. It will also get you known to the owners and if you stay in the hobby this will be a good relationship to have.
Do yourself a favor and at least buy a cheap digital scale,caliper and a neodymium magnet. My Dad bought a couple decent looking Morgans from a seller in Canada. They arrived in the mail from China post. The weight was real close. These were pretty easy for me to spot even in a 2x2 cardboard holder.
No die cracks, fuzzy pictures gave me pause at first. Seems to have clashed A1f reverse. Obverse stars look a bit rounded, and it looks like there's a bite taken out of the upright of the B in PLURIBUS. Not convinced it's real.
Popped it on the scale at work (I'm a high school teacher) and survey says...23.62. So, she's a fake. How would you recommend I proceed?
Wow! A bit off in the weight........was this purchased from an ebay seller? If so file a 'snad' and get your money back.