Morgan Dollar 1896 O over S ???

Hi MD, what could be your opinion ? You got more experience in this field, and in this coin there is a little corner visible of the S mint mark. Forgive when I am wrong, but is so much more difficult to make up an opinion, because it's a small O over a small S ? Thanks for your reply ! Frederik

 

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There are many things that can happen to a coin as old as yours. A simple die crack or die chip comes to mind when looking at your coin.
Metal can be moved easily with damage, so it could easily be what was stated above Damage. When you are looking at VAM 2.0 what is sometimes over looked is that certain years it is known how many die pairs were used and they have already been identified. At that point the die pairs get broke down by stages of use.

@messydesk is an expert, if your coin was in fact a variety or a new VAM then he would have asked for you to send it to him so he could add it to VAM world. Being that he didn't do that it is most likely the result of circulation.

It's a nice looking Morgan just not an O/S like what is thought.

 

Thanks for your reply, and more over for your clear answer ! If I shout stay in the dark and send this coin in again as a discovery coin it will cost me a lot of effort and money for nothing ! Now I know and get a good and better idea about his coin ! At least its an error coin and worthy enough to stay in my USA collection ! Thanks for your information about messydesk ! I keep his opinion in mind ! With regards, Frederik

 

PCGS or any of the TPG's will not designate anything that has not yet been attributed by an expert. It would be a waste of money.
You would need to have it attributed first by a VAM expert then if, I say IF it is a new VAM, then you could send the information. But I believe PCGS has a list of what they will add and what they won't.
I referred to messy desk because it seems that he has called it a non VAM. It looks interesting but it doesn't seem to be a VAM.
Welcome aboard to CT. Fredrick

 

The first thing I would do with this coin is put it under my stereoscope at high power and try and figure out what it is. This might include "poking it with a stick" (VAM collector terminology for interrogating it with a green rose thorn), unless the coin is in a slab, of course. Note that the shape of the O changed between 1882 and 1896, with the latter being more round and having a wider opening. I'm not aware of a die chip in the interior of the mint mark for 96-O. Looking at the picture from PCGS, it seems like it could be VAM 3 based on the mint mark position, but an exact attribution can be hard to determine on a low grade coin.

 

Dear Beer lovers, thanks both for the reply you gave me ! First of all, also I'm a beer lover. In Europe there are so much different very good beers ! One I like is the Weihenstephaner from Germany. Very pure and not too strong ! In answer to your questions; the coin has already been send to PCGS and sits in a holder/slab. I have send this coin with others, but this coin I send in for variety submission, and didn't know anything yet about to send coins in as a discovery coin. There is a Certificate number, which is: 36839056 In the upper left corner there is a small rounding which could be of a S form. In the middle the "S" stroke is not overall regular in wideness. I have no problem for farther investigation to send the coin ( if needed ! ),and also to remove the coin out of the slab for termination if this could be a new Vam, which could be an effort to record for your administration of the USA coins !
With friendly regards, Frederik

 

My point was that since two people (reportedly) have similar coins, an explanation could be a reverse die break in which multiple coins are subsequently struck. There was no intention to suggest that the two or more photos in the thread were of two different coins.