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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3654300, member: 112"]This line of thinking is where a lot of people make their mistake when trying to distinguish wear from weak strike. Ya see, wear can, and often does, first appear in/on various low areas of the coin, even in the fields. In other words there may be obvious wear in the fields of a coin - and none on the high points of the coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>In order to fully grasp this concept you have to first think about how wear occurs on a coin, the physical aspect of it, the positioning of the coin and whatever it is wearing against. With the line of thinking your proposing, if a coin is laying flat on a flat surface, and always in that position, then yes wear will occur on the high points before it appears anywhere else. This is because only the high points are touching the surface when the coin is in that position. But how often are coins laying flat on a flat surface ? Not very often at all !</p><p><br /></p><p>It is far, far more common for the coin to be in almost any other position - besides being flat on a flat surface. The vast majority of the time coins are jumbled together with other coins, or even other objects, in bags, in pockets, in purses, cash drawers, cans, jars, etc etc, positioned in any and at all kinds of angles, placing low areas, even the lowest (fields) against the opposing object. And the opposing object is often even another coin, also at an odd angle. Because of this the most common place for wear to first appear - is anyplace else besides the high points !</p><p><br /></p><p>So to make the assumption that wear only and always appears on the high points of a coin first - well, simply put it's a completely false assumption. But is one that's all too easy to make. This is not to say that wear cannot appear on the high points first, it most definitely can. It's just that more often than not it appears someplace else first because coins are all jumbled up far, far, more often than they ever are laying flat. Even when coins are in bags, and may of them are kinda sorta laying flat against each other, there is almost always an angle to their positioning, with the edge or rim of one touching the fields or other low point of another - thus producing wear in/on the low area first.</p><p><br /></p><p>But what I'm talking about, that rough bumpy texture is always, stress always, present on weakly struck areas of a coin. Regardless of whether or not the die was fully hubbed or weakly hubbed - and you can have a weak strike with both. And wear is always flat, smooth, and dull looking. So it is always possible to differentiate weak strike from wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>And sometimes, even the weakly struck areas can be where wear first occurs. And if it does, even that is identifiable for small portions of the textured areas will be worn smooth, flat.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3654300, member: 112"]This line of thinking is where a lot of people make their mistake when trying to distinguish wear from weak strike. Ya see, wear can, and often does, first appear in/on various low areas of the coin, even in the fields. In other words there may be obvious wear in the fields of a coin - and none on the high points of the coin. In order to fully grasp this concept you have to first think about how wear occurs on a coin, the physical aspect of it, the positioning of the coin and whatever it is wearing against. With the line of thinking your proposing, if a coin is laying flat on a flat surface, and always in that position, then yes wear will occur on the high points before it appears anywhere else. This is because only the high points are touching the surface when the coin is in that position. But how often are coins laying flat on a flat surface ? Not very often at all ! It is far, far more common for the coin to be in almost any other position - besides being flat on a flat surface. The vast majority of the time coins are jumbled together with other coins, or even other objects, in bags, in pockets, in purses, cash drawers, cans, jars, etc etc, positioned in any and at all kinds of angles, placing low areas, even the lowest (fields) against the opposing object. And the opposing object is often even another coin, also at an odd angle. Because of this the most common place for wear to first appear - is anyplace else besides the high points ! So to make the assumption that wear only and always appears on the high points of a coin first - well, simply put it's a completely false assumption. But is one that's all too easy to make. This is not to say that wear cannot appear on the high points first, it most definitely can. It's just that more often than not it appears someplace else first because coins are all jumbled up far, far, more often than they ever are laying flat. Even when coins are in bags, and may of them are kinda sorta laying flat against each other, there is almost always an angle to their positioning, with the edge or rim of one touching the fields or other low point of another - thus producing wear in/on the low area first. But what I'm talking about, that rough bumpy texture is always, stress always, present on weakly struck areas of a coin. Regardless of whether or not the die was fully hubbed or weakly hubbed - and you can have a weak strike with both. And wear is always flat, smooth, and dull looking. So it is always possible to differentiate weak strike from wear. And sometimes, even the weakly struck areas can be where wear first occurs. And if it does, even that is identifiable for small portions of the textured areas will be worn smooth, flat.[/QUOTE]
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