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<p>[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 560737, member: 5629"]As upset about the apparent deception in advertising a you probably are,let's get more realistic here. What copyright violation?</p><p><br /></p><p>In order to be a copyright violation, that exact image must have been produced by PCGS and/or NGC and used without permission. Now, is it logical that PCGS would use an NGC slab in any of their copyrighted works? And vice versa?</p><p><br /></p><p>The PCGS and NGC slabs themselves are not able to be copyrighted. A photo of said slabs may be copyrighted, but the copyright is extended to the producer of the photo, not the producer of the photographed object.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even a patent on the design would not be violated. A photo of a patented object is still the copyrighted work of the one taking the photo. Now, photos of the design schematics and production facilities may be protected under trade secret rules, but not copyright nor patent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, the only possible recourse either PCGS or NGC would have would be trademark violation. In such case, they would have had to register they're slab design AND label layout in their trademark. And in the matter of trademark, they would have to actively defend their trademark in EVERY case known to them.</p><p><br /></p><p>That means that any photo listed on eBay of a PCGS or NGC slab would have to be brought to legal action for trademark violation. That just does NOT happen.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think this information is important (though may be a bit offtopic?) because any precedence like you suggest would mean that even you violate the TPG's imaginary property rights by posting any slab in its entirety, even for purposes of discussion and debate.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 560737, member: 5629"]As upset about the apparent deception in advertising a you probably are,let's get more realistic here. What copyright violation? In order to be a copyright violation, that exact image must have been produced by PCGS and/or NGC and used without permission. Now, is it logical that PCGS would use an NGC slab in any of their copyrighted works? And vice versa? The PCGS and NGC slabs themselves are not able to be copyrighted. A photo of said slabs may be copyrighted, but the copyright is extended to the producer of the photo, not the producer of the photographed object. Even a patent on the design would not be violated. A photo of a patented object is still the copyrighted work of the one taking the photo. Now, photos of the design schematics and production facilities may be protected under trade secret rules, but not copyright nor patent. Finally, the only possible recourse either PCGS or NGC would have would be trademark violation. In such case, they would have had to register they're slab design AND label layout in their trademark. And in the matter of trademark, they would have to actively defend their trademark in EVERY case known to them. That means that any photo listed on eBay of a PCGS or NGC slab would have to be brought to legal action for trademark violation. That just does NOT happen. I think this information is important (though may be a bit offtopic?) because any precedence like you suggest would mean that even you violate the TPG's imaginary property rights by posting any slab in its entirety, even for purposes of discussion and debate.[/QUOTE]
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