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<p>[QUOTE="halfcent1793, post: 3803938, member: 86853"]There's a lot here. First of all, I'm glad we agree that MS69 is a stupid grade for that Wreath cent. I believe I misstated, and it's called MS60+ in the CC. 60+ means a nice UNC coin with no original color, which that is.</p><p><br /></p><p>S-49 is a 1794 large cent. There are MANY other 1794 large cents in various grades from barely visible to very choice UNC for comparison. There are not a lot of Wreath cents in very choice UNC to compare the stated coin to. I'm guessing that you would agree that 1794 Liberty Caps and 1793 Wreaths aren't graded exactly the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>Re: <b>IT CAN'T!</b> (sorry, I don't know how to add the color). Grade is just someone's opinion. I think we would agree on this as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>Re: "wacky coin grading": Net grading was developed as a way to take into consideration the insults coins have received since they were struck. Nicks, porosity, cleaning, <i>etc</i>. make coins less desirable than a coin with the same amount of wear but no disruptions. EVERYONE does net grading. When the TPGs reduce grades of UNCs based on the amount of marks, they are net grading for defects exactly like we in EAC do. There's nothing "wacky" about it. Not everyone agrees on a coin's net grade, which is fine. Not everyone would agree the rank order of grades of a group of coins of the same variety set on a table in front of them. We drive different cars, marry different spouses, have different careers, <i>etc</i>. Of course our opinions of eye appeal are not all going to be exactly the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm only saying, we should learn to grade for ourselves and trust our own knowledge. </p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, thanks for the compliment on the <i>EAC Grading Guide</i>. I'm one of the authors, though I'm sure you guessed that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not wanting to get into a flame war, there's quite a bit that I have deleted from this response. None of it was personal, but I wanted to avoid annoying people any more than necessary.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="halfcent1793, post: 3803938, member: 86853"]There's a lot here. First of all, I'm glad we agree that MS69 is a stupid grade for that Wreath cent. I believe I misstated, and it's called MS60+ in the CC. 60+ means a nice UNC coin with no original color, which that is. S-49 is a 1794 large cent. There are MANY other 1794 large cents in various grades from barely visible to very choice UNC for comparison. There are not a lot of Wreath cents in very choice UNC to compare the stated coin to. I'm guessing that you would agree that 1794 Liberty Caps and 1793 Wreaths aren't graded exactly the same. Re: [B]IT CAN'T![/B] (sorry, I don't know how to add the color). Grade is just someone's opinion. I think we would agree on this as well. Re: "wacky coin grading": Net grading was developed as a way to take into consideration the insults coins have received since they were struck. Nicks, porosity, cleaning, [I]etc[/I]. make coins less desirable than a coin with the same amount of wear but no disruptions. EVERYONE does net grading. When the TPGs reduce grades of UNCs based on the amount of marks, they are net grading for defects exactly like we in EAC do. There's nothing "wacky" about it. Not everyone agrees on a coin's net grade, which is fine. Not everyone would agree the rank order of grades of a group of coins of the same variety set on a table in front of them. We drive different cars, marry different spouses, have different careers, [I]etc[/I]. Of course our opinions of eye appeal are not all going to be exactly the same. I'm only saying, we should learn to grade for ourselves and trust our own knowledge. By the way, thanks for the compliment on the [I]EAC Grading Guide[/I]. I'm one of the authors, though I'm sure you guessed that. Not wanting to get into a flame war, there's quite a bit that I have deleted from this response. None of it was personal, but I wanted to avoid annoying people any more than necessary.[/QUOTE]
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