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<p>[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8056209, member: 128351"]A friend of mine used to say : "There is no such thing as an authentic coin, there are only well-made fakes". I wonder which philosophical school he belongs to, sceptical? cynical? tongincheekal?</p><p>Let's be serious. If these coins are actually fakes, I must admit I would never had suspicions just looking at the photographs. You say they are fakes just because the seller openly says so, and I suppose he sells them for a very cheap price. But is there anything else (the weight, for ex.?) that could enable a trained eye to distinguish a fake?</p><p>Let us admit it is now possible to forge fake ancient coins so perfectly that they cannot be distinguished from authentic ones any more, and that the forger's own word is now the only possible reason for which they can be considered fakes. It would be a revolution in the domain of numismatics. We are now entering the Era of Suspicion. The only authentic coins will be the ones with a real verifiable pedigree proving they were already in private or public collections before perfect forgeries were technically possible. And also, of course, the coins dug out from controlled archaeological excavations. </p><p>I am still a bit sceptical. If so well-made and deceiving fakes can actually be forged, it must be relatively easy and at a very low cost. A worn Roman Republican denarius is not a decadrachm of Akragas or an <i>Eid Mart</i> aureus. The operation of forging ancient coins must be profitable, or if it's not, what for? </p><p>Another question is : are we sure they are fakes? I know a collector who posted on instagram some rare coins telling they were fakes, but not telling why he was so positive, and a few months later I found these very coins (or their perfect clones) auctioned as authentic by a serious and well-reputed house. As a matter of fact, I could not, from just the good photographs, distinguish any reason to suspect them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8056209, member: 128351"]A friend of mine used to say : "There is no such thing as an authentic coin, there are only well-made fakes". I wonder which philosophical school he belongs to, sceptical? cynical? tongincheekal? Let's be serious. If these coins are actually fakes, I must admit I would never had suspicions just looking at the photographs. You say they are fakes just because the seller openly says so, and I suppose he sells them for a very cheap price. But is there anything else (the weight, for ex.?) that could enable a trained eye to distinguish a fake? Let us admit it is now possible to forge fake ancient coins so perfectly that they cannot be distinguished from authentic ones any more, and that the forger's own word is now the only possible reason for which they can be considered fakes. It would be a revolution in the domain of numismatics. We are now entering the Era of Suspicion. The only authentic coins will be the ones with a real verifiable pedigree proving they were already in private or public collections before perfect forgeries were technically possible. And also, of course, the coins dug out from controlled archaeological excavations. I am still a bit sceptical. If so well-made and deceiving fakes can actually be forged, it must be relatively easy and at a very low cost. A worn Roman Republican denarius is not a decadrachm of Akragas or an [I]Eid Mart[/I] aureus. The operation of forging ancient coins must be profitable, or if it's not, what for? Another question is : are we sure they are fakes? I know a collector who posted on instagram some rare coins telling they were fakes, but not telling why he was so positive, and a few months later I found these very coins (or their perfect clones) auctioned as authentic by a serious and well-reputed house. As a matter of fact, I could not, from just the good photographs, distinguish any reason to suspect them.[/QUOTE]
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