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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1851888, member: 26302"]I had a similar experience actually. Really local auction house, with no coin knowledge. I took the education route. I showed them pics in the book of real coins, and showed them how theirs was not the same. Didn't work on the clerk. Tried it on the auctioneer, he wasn't interested. Since I was POSITIVE it was fake, I then told the auctioneer I had no choice since I was a member of the ANA, (wink wink), but to go to the local police department and swear out a complaint of counterfeiting against the auction house and have the local police notify the Secret Service. This got them to pull the item, and I didn't see further fakes later. Would I have done it if they had called my bluff? IDK, but it worked. I would reiterate as others have said though. You need to be SURE its fake. They kind of looked at me sideways for a few months, but didn't stop me from bidding. After a while it was forgotten. Like you, I just wanted to be able to still participate, but also stop the spread of fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>I actually had another instance of fake ancients in a local coin only auction. I told the owner they were fake, showed him why I knew they were, (really bad cast fakes), and he never pulled them or mentioned they were fakes. That was the last time I ever had dealings with that dealer. It wasn't easy either, since he became the state coin association president, and is to this day the largest coin dealer in a good sized city. Just proves size and success does not prove integrity.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1851888, member: 26302"]I had a similar experience actually. Really local auction house, with no coin knowledge. I took the education route. I showed them pics in the book of real coins, and showed them how theirs was not the same. Didn't work on the clerk. Tried it on the auctioneer, he wasn't interested. Since I was POSITIVE it was fake, I then told the auctioneer I had no choice since I was a member of the ANA, (wink wink), but to go to the local police department and swear out a complaint of counterfeiting against the auction house and have the local police notify the Secret Service. This got them to pull the item, and I didn't see further fakes later. Would I have done it if they had called my bluff? IDK, but it worked. I would reiterate as others have said though. You need to be SURE its fake. They kind of looked at me sideways for a few months, but didn't stop me from bidding. After a while it was forgotten. Like you, I just wanted to be able to still participate, but also stop the spread of fakes. I actually had another instance of fake ancients in a local coin only auction. I told the owner they were fake, showed him why I knew they were, (really bad cast fakes), and he never pulled them or mentioned they were fakes. That was the last time I ever had dealings with that dealer. It wasn't easy either, since he became the state coin association president, and is to this day the largest coin dealer in a good sized city. Just proves size and success does not prove integrity.[/QUOTE]
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