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Message:: [QUOTE="Colonialjohn, post: 2139414, member: 57741"]Galapac - if you google fake chinese coins you do come across 2-3 websites where some people have put up some nice information on how to avoid buying these types. I will with permission extract this information for the chapter and then couple it with the metallurgy I have worked on for the last couple of years. The problem seems to be is how to avoid buying and spotting these pieces as most people agree when the coin is "IN HAND" it becomes obvious you were taken and in most cases its then too late. All I can do is combine these PRECAUTIONS in this small chapter on this 400 page contemporary counterfeit book due out in 2017. A chapter on these unwanted modern forgeries would serve the reader well. I have intentionally purchased some of these more well made pieces and using stereo microscope, XRF and SEM/EDS have compiled data to help the collector avoid these pieces. I agree - for the casual collector - this will still not be possible it seems to be ripped off - ON OCCASION. JPL[/QUOTE]