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<p>[QUOTE="gxseries, post: 2019872, member: 4373"]This can be a thorny issue - these sellers are intelligent crooks. They can read forums and they don't need to even understand English. They can use online translator programs and get a rough idea of what's going on. </p><p><br /></p><p>When you discuss what's wrong and give "general" ideas of how to avoid counterfeits - they use this as a cheap and free feedback. Easy solutions such as "bad details", "magnetic", "weight test", "seller in China" no longer apply. This only worked in early 2000s. Fast forward 2014 - this is another world.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some sellers would blend genuine coins into their sales. Some would even sell several hundred cheap goods to have good feedback before attempting to sell more pricy counterfeits. As for the cost of producing one counterfeit coin - I believe it's well under the 10 to 20 cent mark. It's time to smarten up and make the lives of counterfeiters hard enough to give up. No point talking about getting authorities to police counterfeits - they don't even have the expertise and resources to do so. The only way to make them stop is to stop giving them your hard earned money. And you are the only one that have the power to do so. It's not like you are forced to hand your money over to buy a counterfeit. </p><p><br /></p><p>Best solution is you must arm yourself with knowledge and passion. If you don't have the time and patience, develop a good relationship with reputable dealers that you can trust and are willing to take back what they sold if the goods are determined to be counterfeit. Or ask around for help and seek their knowledge. Just don't whinge about prices especially if they have done a great service for you. If you don't want to pay extra, learn to be a bargain hunter and know what you are dealing with. Be the expert in what you are seeking. If you aren't willing to do either, you may be in the wrong field. There's always catalog for viewing. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thankfully you cannot counterfeit relationship or reputation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gxseries, post: 2019872, member: 4373"]This can be a thorny issue - these sellers are intelligent crooks. They can read forums and they don't need to even understand English. They can use online translator programs and get a rough idea of what's going on. When you discuss what's wrong and give "general" ideas of how to avoid counterfeits - they use this as a cheap and free feedback. Easy solutions such as "bad details", "magnetic", "weight test", "seller in China" no longer apply. This only worked in early 2000s. Fast forward 2014 - this is another world. Some sellers would blend genuine coins into their sales. Some would even sell several hundred cheap goods to have good feedback before attempting to sell more pricy counterfeits. As for the cost of producing one counterfeit coin - I believe it's well under the 10 to 20 cent mark. It's time to smarten up and make the lives of counterfeiters hard enough to give up. No point talking about getting authorities to police counterfeits - they don't even have the expertise and resources to do so. The only way to make them stop is to stop giving them your hard earned money. And you are the only one that have the power to do so. It's not like you are forced to hand your money over to buy a counterfeit. Best solution is you must arm yourself with knowledge and passion. If you don't have the time and patience, develop a good relationship with reputable dealers that you can trust and are willing to take back what they sold if the goods are determined to be counterfeit. Or ask around for help and seek their knowledge. Just don't whinge about prices especially if they have done a great service for you. If you don't want to pay extra, learn to be a bargain hunter and know what you are dealing with. Be the expert in what you are seeking. If you aren't willing to do either, you may be in the wrong field. There's always catalog for viewing. Thankfully you cannot counterfeit relationship or reputation.[/QUOTE]
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