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Message:: [QUOTE="Numismat, post: 2016309, member: 15019"]You guys may be getting tired of my posting about modern fakes and their ever improving quality... well, too bad. I will keep posting about them even if it helps one person for every 100 that it annoys. Here is a pretty good sample of some of the most common fakes you will see going around now-a-days. Some are pretty easy to detect, but some are very convincing even in hand to experienced collectors. I will use this thread as a running list and will continue to update it with more examples as I find them. Take the time or don't, your choice. But if you buy any of the types of coins you see in this thread, you best get very well acquainted with them. And don't be ignorant about slabs either, lots of the higher end ones you will see here have made it into real NGC and PCGS slabs. Also, they are constantly adding more types to their repertoire. I will do my best to keep up, but I am just one man with limited time for detective work. Make no mistake... ALL of these coins are fake. <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-Greece-5-D-Silver-Coin-AU-/121477235896?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c489b84b8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-Greece-5-D-Silver-Coin-AU-/121477235896?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c489b84b8" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-Greece-5-D-Silver-Coin-AU-/121477235896?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c489b84b8</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1829-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475662137?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48838139" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1829-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475662137?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48838139" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1829-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475662137?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48838139</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475672366?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883a92e" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475672366?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883a92e" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1833-German-Bavaria-Thaler-Coin-/121475672366?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883a92e</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-German-2-Thaler-Coin-/121475673234?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883ac92" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-German-2-Thaler-Coin-/121475673234?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883ac92" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-German-2-Thaler-Coin-/121475673234?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883ac92</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-German-5-Mark-Coin-/121475674457?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b159" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-German-5-Mark-Coin-/121475674457?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b159" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-German-5-Mark-Coin-/121475674457?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b159</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1834-German-Thaler-Coin-28-11g-/121475676563?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b993" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1834-German-Thaler-Coin-28-11g-/121475676563?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b993" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1834-German-Thaler-Coin-28-11g-/121475676563?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4883b993</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1739-Mexico-8-R-Colonial-Coin-/121475911570?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48874f92" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1739-Mexico-8-R-Colonial-Coin-/121475911570?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48874f92" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1739-Mexico-8-R-Colonial-Coin-/121475911570?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48874f92</a> <a 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rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1831-Italy-Silver-Coin-/121476057180?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4889885c</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-Kiau-Chau-Chinese-German-Enclave-10-Cents-/121476061266?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48899852" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-Kiau-Chau-Chinese-German-Enclave-10-Cents-/121476061266?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48899852" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-Kiau-Chau-Chinese-German-Enclave-10-Cents-/121476061266?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c48899852</a> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Y-r-23-Japan-1-Silver-Coin-/121475998781?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4888a43d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Y-r-23-Japan-1-Silver-Coin-/121475998781?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4888a43d" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Y-r-23-Japan-1-Silver-Coin-/121475998781?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1c4888a43d</a> And as an aside, remember this little thread here: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-this-ebay-seller-problematic.254173/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-this-ebay-seller-problematic.254173/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-this-ebay-seller-problematic.254173/</a> This was a troll thread by someone associated with the accounts selling these coins. They had private messaged me prior, and me being foolish and believing this was a legitimate confused buyer, told them some of their tactics and a list of current eBay id's. This person used that information for this thread and I have no doubt it was meant as a test of how deceiving their methods really are. In short... if someone posts a fake that is a good, convincing modern fake. Tell them what it is, but don't go into detail as to why it is what it is. You will only be helping the counterfeiters better their craft. Any hate mail, please use PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

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