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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2854431, member: 112"]Either you misread what I said, or I'm misreading what you just said. But what I said was - Prior to 2004 when the TPGs started changing their standards there were no coins dated prior to 1964 graded as a 70. The TPGs came into existence in 1986 and for 20 years people were very actively looking for and sending in any and every coin that even thought might make the 70 grade - MS or PF. But there never was any, not even 1 coin dated 64 or earlier. Not until they changed their standards in 2004. The numbers I gave above, those numbers were MS and PF combined, not just one or the other. In just 1 year, 1 year, the total number of coins graded as a 70, MS and PF both, jumped from about 10,000 to over 100,000. And bear in mind it took 20 years to reach that 10,000 number. But in only 1 year 10 times that number were graded 70 ! Today, the total number of coins grading 70 is approaching 10,000,000.[/QUOTE]