Modern Coins in Ancient Style

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here's a possibly interesting topic, modern coins minted in an ancient style, that is, hammered, no collar, hand-engraved dies. This should probably be in the World Forum, but you are my people, so I post it here.

    There are likely many Far Eastern coins that would fall in this category. I give you a newp, fanam of Mysore...

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    Tipu Sultan, Mysore, AD 1782-1799
    AV Fanam, 7.74mm, 0.37g, Patan mint: 1789.
    Obv.: HA (Initials of Hyder Ali, Tipu Sultan's father) within inner linear and outer dotted borders.
    Rev.: 1218 (= AD 1789) / Zarb Patan (Patan mint), within inner linear and outer dotted borders.
    Reference: KM 128.1

    Thank you to THCoins for translating the Arabic!

    So post a modern coin minted in ancient style.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting coin and topic, but I don't think I have anything I can post here.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I don't know much about them but have seen them posted here several times. Yours is by far the sharpest and best example I've seen!
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yeah, on second thought, this really should have been posted in World Coins.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, you tried to keep it in the family. I understand. I'm from West Virginia.
     
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  7. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Excellent choice for a venture into eastern parts. Indeed this one still looks very "ancient".
    First some warning for possibly interested members: Don't buy these from e-bay from a seller you do not fully trust. Nine out of ten offered (maybe more) of this category are modern fakes !
    The text on the right side is stylized Persian. Below the horizontal bar from right to left is "Zarb Patan". So struck at Patan mint.
    Above the bar from right to left the date 1218. Tipu Sultan introduced his own Mauludi date system during his reign (in the beginning the islamic Hijiri calendar was used). 1218AM corresponds approximately to 1789AD.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I was REALLY hoping you would come to my rescue! The coin was purchased from a long-standing reputable dealer with a lifetime guarantee of authenticity, so I have no concerns there. Thank you for explaining the date - I'm going to pat myself on the back for reading it correctly.
     
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  9. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Of course no photos, but weren't there hand hammered Moroccan coins from the late 1800's? I have a few from lots and the like, and was shocked they were so new when I looked them up.
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a cool little gold coin JA, i would have guessed it was medieval looking at it....maybe about 700 years older than it its.

    i like modern coins that remind me of ancients, like russian wire money...
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    how much different are these 18th century chinese coins than one 1000 years older? not much...


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    these wacky spanish overstrikes (or counterstamped) remind me of byzantine coins,

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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've seen them, but I believe they're cast, so they usually have pretty soft features. And they come in a few denominations. Here's a page of Google images.
     
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  12. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Here's some coins that i think look ancient, but are from the 1800's.

    Japan..
    Gold, i did test this with 14k acid, held up very good!! 12mm x 23mm
    japan 001_opt.jpg japan 002_opt.jpg

    Japan.
    Silver..16mmx 23mm
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    japan 004_opt.jpg

    They remind me some whatof these India coins from 321-187 BC.

    japan 005_opt.jpg japan 006_opt.jpg
     
  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've got a handful of those counterstamped Maravedis as well...

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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Lorraine, Duke of Lorraine, Theobald II
    1303-1312 AD
    Theobald II on Horse & Sword w Eagles (Alerions)
    Lorraine Duche de Lorraine Thiebaut II.jpg

    Lorraine, City of Metz
    1415-1540 AD
    St Etienne Kneeling & Family Shield
    Lorraine 1400 a.jpg

    Lorraine. Charles IV, 2nd reign
    1661-1670 AD
    Crowned Shield & Eagle
    Lorraine 1600 a.jpg

    Duke of Milan, Bernabo & Galeazzo II Visconti
    1355-1378 AD
    Serpent with maiden & Ambrose on Throne
    Duchy Dragon.jpg

    France, Henri IV Huitieme d'Ecu 1599
    1599 AD
    Cross Fleuree & Crowned Coat of Arms
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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Interesting thread with very cool posts..

    My only offering, or the closest I could come to a modern 'coin' with ancient styling, is my Attic replica from the British Museum and I doubt many wish to see that again after just posting it a few days ago....Besides, it's not really a coin LOL
     
  16. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Nice coins guys, i'm learning how to put two pictures together. easy for some harder for big dummy's like me!!:rolleyes:

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    janus 2 002_opt.jpg

    This was a test, i think i may have it, now need to take better pictures,:oops: sorry JA for jumping your thread.
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Lookin' good, John. Looks like everybody is on a photography kick these days.
     
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  18. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    My little one:

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    India Gold Fanam
    9mm, 0.4gms
    Coorg. H#1.09.01
     
  19. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Neat lil' piece Mat. ;)
     
  20. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    +1
     
  21. TradingGreen

    TradingGreen Active Member

    Probably not a good comparison but one that I recently acquired. This is 1898 Syracuse NY store card from Stearns Bicycle Company. It copies an ancient Syracusan dekadrachm from Sicily.
     

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