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<p>[QUOTE="StevenHarden, post: 4297804, member: 67639"][USER=44615]@paddyman98[/USER] </p><p>[USER=81991]@alurid[/USER] </p><p>[USER=59737]@Seattlite86[/USER] </p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you all for your replies and comments.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>#53</u></b></p><p>First off, I agree that this is triple struck. As for this being a saddle strike, I am still not sure. There are small indents in the rim near the base of Lincoln's vest as well as near the 'D' in 'GOD' which may indicate the beginnings of a hump as described here: <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/saddle-strike-without-hump/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/saddle-strike-without-hump/" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/saddle-strike-without-hump/</a></p><p>I still wonder about #53 having a straight clip. Here are a few photos of what I am referring to:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093972[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093973[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093974[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093975[/ATTACH] </p><p><b><u><br /></u></b></p><p><b><u>#54</u></b></p><p>I agree that this is a ragged edge clip.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>#55</u></b></p><p>I agree with calling this an elliptical strike clip. The example I have seems to fit well with the characteristics as describe at the following: <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/elliptical-strike-clips/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/elliptical-strike-clips/" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/elliptical-strike-clips/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>#56-58</u></b></p><p>I would call all of these weak strikes per the following: <a href="http://www.error-ref.com/weak_strikesinsufficientrampressure/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.error-ref.com/weak_strikesinsufficientrampressure/" rel="nofollow">http://www.error-ref.com/weak_strikesinsufficientrampressure/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with [USER=1859]@mikediamond[/USER] (I believe he authored the above reference) that it is impossible to know for certain if this truly is a die trial piece or if it is "the result of spontaneous equipment malfunction".</p><p><br /></p><p>It is interesting that one of the photo examples provided in the above reference is also a weakly-struck 2007 Montana quarter. I am not sure about the reference to these being struck on a Schuler press that "doesn't even require ram pressure and die clearance to be adjusted by means of a test run". I would think that regardless of what requirements a press needs to generate a test run, the operator would still want to strike a few test trial examples. Even so, true die trial examples would be exceeding rare in comparison to what is likely just known as 'weak strikes' (not grease strikes).</p><p><br /></p><p>As a final reference in regards to #56-58, refer to page 133 on the following: <a href="https://minterrornews.com/issue54.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://minterrornews.com/issue54.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://minterrornews.com/issue54.pdf</a></p><p>Page 133 shows Mint Errors News Price Guide for Die Adjustment Strikes as updated March 2020. Under the denomination of state quarters there is a price listing for "XF/AU" examples of "N/A" and "Unc" examples at $200. For those of you familiar with these types of errors, does that price level sound accurate?</p><p><br /></p><p>----------</p><p><br /></p><p>To everyone: Please review the above information and feel free to ask me any questions or discuss anything I have included. Or, if any of you have any new information to include, please do so.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank You.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="StevenHarden, post: 4297804, member: 67639"][USER=44615]@paddyman98[/USER] [USER=81991]@alurid[/USER] [USER=59737]@Seattlite86[/USER] Thank you all for your replies and comments. [B][U]#53[/U][/B] First off, I agree that this is triple struck. As for this being a saddle strike, I am still not sure. There are small indents in the rim near the base of Lincoln's vest as well as near the 'D' in 'GOD' which may indicate the beginnings of a hump as described here: [URL]http://www.error-ref.com/saddle-strike-without-hump/[/URL] I still wonder about #53 having a straight clip. Here are a few photos of what I am referring to: [ATTACH=full]1093972[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1093973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1093974[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1093975[/ATTACH] [B][U] #54[/U][/B] I agree that this is a ragged edge clip. [B][U]#55[/U][/B] I agree with calling this an elliptical strike clip. The example I have seems to fit well with the characteristics as describe at the following: [URL]http://www.error-ref.com/elliptical-strike-clips/[/URL] [B][U]#56-58[/U][/B] I would call all of these weak strikes per the following: [URL]http://www.error-ref.com/weak_strikesinsufficientrampressure/[/URL] I agree with [USER=1859]@mikediamond[/USER] (I believe he authored the above reference) that it is impossible to know for certain if this truly is a die trial piece or if it is "the result of spontaneous equipment malfunction". It is interesting that one of the photo examples provided in the above reference is also a weakly-struck 2007 Montana quarter. I am not sure about the reference to these being struck on a Schuler press that "doesn't even require ram pressure and die clearance to be adjusted by means of a test run". I would think that regardless of what requirements a press needs to generate a test run, the operator would still want to strike a few test trial examples. Even so, true die trial examples would be exceeding rare in comparison to what is likely just known as 'weak strikes' (not grease strikes). As a final reference in regards to #56-58, refer to page 133 on the following: [URL]https://minterrornews.com/issue54.pdf[/URL] Page 133 shows Mint Errors News Price Guide for Die Adjustment Strikes as updated March 2020. Under the denomination of state quarters there is a price listing for "XF/AU" examples of "N/A" and "Unc" examples at $200. For those of you familiar with these types of errors, does that price level sound accurate? ---------- To everyone: Please review the above information and feel free to ask me any questions or discuss anything I have included. Or, if any of you have any new information to include, please do so. Thank You.[/QUOTE]
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