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<p>[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3288354, member: 71642"]Obviously. A seller sends and is marked delivered. That one is a no brainer. Buyer pays, Seller has proof of delivery. Contract fulfilled and end of story. Not sure what your point was in quoting my comment.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, I don't mean literally hand it over to you in person <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. That's why we have the USPS, UPS, FedEx, and whatever. BUT, if I sell you something, then I have to make sure it gets to YOU. Not some intermediary that happens to be making my life easier by doing the transportation.</p><p><br /></p><p>The whole basis of mail order requires a contract that involves actual delivery. Think about it. eBay requires proof of 'delivery'. Not proof of 'I handed it over to the USPS'. If the seller can prove they handed it to the postal service and it is not delivered, then the seller makes a claim with the USPS. Not the buyer. </p><p><br /></p><p>I can assure you if I pay Amazon in Washington State for a product I am not paying them to hand it over to a delivery service. I am paying them to get it to me. Amazon understands this and on the very few times things have gone astray they have re-sent the package or item. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, no it's not 'unreasonable' to say I expect the seller to give the buyer the product for which they paid. That is the whole implied contract. Buyer gives Seller money. Seller gives Buyer what they paid for. That's it.</p><p><br /></p><p>So yes. If I sell you a coin from Virginia then yes, I have to get it to you in Pennsylvania. By whatever means I chose.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3288354, member: 71642"]Obviously. A seller sends and is marked delivered. That one is a no brainer. Buyer pays, Seller has proof of delivery. Contract fulfilled and end of story. Not sure what your point was in quoting my comment. Well, I don't mean literally hand it over to you in person :rolleyes:. That's why we have the USPS, UPS, FedEx, and whatever. BUT, if I sell you something, then I have to make sure it gets to YOU. Not some intermediary that happens to be making my life easier by doing the transportation. The whole basis of mail order requires a contract that involves actual delivery. Think about it. eBay requires proof of 'delivery'. Not proof of 'I handed it over to the USPS'. If the seller can prove they handed it to the postal service and it is not delivered, then the seller makes a claim with the USPS. Not the buyer. I can assure you if I pay Amazon in Washington State for a product I am not paying them to hand it over to a delivery service. I am paying them to get it to me. Amazon understands this and on the very few times things have gone astray they have re-sent the package or item. So, no it's not 'unreasonable' to say I expect the seller to give the buyer the product for which they paid. That is the whole implied contract. Buyer gives Seller money. Seller gives Buyer what they paid for. That's it. So yes. If I sell you a coin from Virginia then yes, I have to get it to you in Pennsylvania. By whatever means I chose.[/QUOTE]
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