Mint releasing 2019 penny planchets

Do you have any idea how Copper Plated Zinc Planchets are made? Won't be worth duplicating.

 

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A rough idea. Unless I'm missing something, the only real stumbling block would be getting or making similar metal. Running thru a press, either manual or hydraulic to punch out the blanks would be easy. Using a cannelure device to even the edges or upset them. Heat treating would be easy too.

It would depend on what the planchets end up selling for if people break them out.

 

Here is an aftermarket set from 1994 I picked up from the LCS for like a buck. No way to determine not from 2019 unless you send your order from the mint directly to a TPG unopened and via fed ex. But why? there would be no value gained, imo. Probably cost $50 with all the shipping fees and planchets almost always have flaws that are removed when stuck so you would be unlikely to get a 70 Planchet anyway...

 

When did the mint start making pennies? I know they started making cents in 1793.

 

best to forward the question to the US MINT
i'm using *their* terminology that they use on their packaging, website, marketing, etc ...


maybe the "penny" is an individual object,
whereas a "cent" is really a "percent" or 1/100th of a dollar, thus 1 per CENT.
who knows

 

I know it's the mint saying that. Now even they are too ignorant to know what they make. I don't mind people in public calling them that, but "professionals"?
Like when people call engines motors.

 

Because the album makers put profit ahead of anything else. Has anyone seen a new Dansco album for the innovation coins?

 

Too much involved to make them.. I repeat.. Not worth the time.

 

I guess I don't understand what you are getting at. How do the album makers putting profit ahead of anything else correlate to making the planchets?

I will bow to your experience as I know you have many years more than I do studying coinage. I just know that I make similar to planchets when I punch out disks from copper before cupping them for making bullet jackets. I also have a cannelure device that I can either run a cannelure around a round object like a bullet jacket or disk or just upset it like a planchet. With a little fideling, I think they would look alike. Cost is just a few cents. I can punch a couple of hundred an hour unless it is set up for auto feed, then the production can increase. If the planchets will only sell for a few cents it definitely wouldn't be worth it. I expected they would sell for more.

Or for a few hundred dollars I can have a set of dies made just press them.

 

Once again.. Not worth the money and effort. You will never be able to match the composition or appearance.

Try cutting your own copper plated zinc Planchets. The edge would be exposed revealing the zinc. That's not the way they are made.

 

Having the proper equipment is most of the problem. Even with the equipment it's still not worth making them. I don't even think the mint makes them any more.

 

Question. Are the blanks plated before or after they go thru the upset mill?

 

Yes.. Before.

 

Well, as I said, you would know better than I would, and I accept what you say.

Clawcoins asked the question about what the planchets might bring if sold. I was just throwing it out there as being possible to make them fairly easy. And, as I said in the original statement, it would depend on being able to duplicate the original metal. Mainly it would all hinge on what they would sell for. If they brought 10 cents, no, if they brought $10 dollars, yes. At 100-200 per hour, that would add up. Assuming there would be more than 3 people wanting to buy them.

I wouldn't do it as it would be fraudulent to sell them to someone thinking they would be original. I just think it wouldn't be too hard to do.

I'm not sure if you are familiar with swagging or not. I have a manual press and a hydraulic one. I can swage solid copper. I can cut blanks or swage into a shape like a bullet or a coin. Just feed zinc strips thru, cut discs, copper electroplate, and swage into shape. It would be interesting to just swage a cent to see how much of the detail was left if any. I'm guessing the copper would shift and leave zinc displayed in various areas. Planchet errors! Just kidding.

I think they would be close enough that someone would think they were originally from the mint. That was the only point I was trying to make.

 

Good of you to think that way.

 

No and you probably won't for awhile. So far there has only bee one coin put out and no other designs has even been publicized. I think they may have selected the order of the states that they will be issued in, but still right now there would be no good way to label the holes. Also with the way the mint keeps changing what they decide to issue they keen making the albums produced obsolete. "Here is what we are issuing for the state quarters." Then in 2005 "were going to add another finish, a Matte fiish on the mint set coin." Then "Oh we're going to add the territories too". Then the ATB quarters start and in the second year "We aren't going to make the two different finishes anymore." Then in the third year "We're going to make business strike S mint coins.". Now in the tenthenthear "Oh we are going to start making X coins for circulatiom". Each time making the albums already produced incomplete or inaccurate.

 

I should have elaborated a bit more.
People will send in the entire package of what they get from the US MINT to a TPG. Then the TPG opens it, so they can confirm authenticity, etc.

So a TPG could slab the penny planchet and label it correctly based upon the entire package mailed to them.

And I'm curious what a slabbed planchet would sell for, as it's an actual US MINT product now, with a limited "production".

 

Pretty coins