Mint Offering Intentional Error?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Randy Abercrombie, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Having had collecting set aside from about 1990 until several years back, the explosion of interest in mint errors has been surprising and intriguing to me. The image below (copied from Google images) is probably among the most recognized mint error. The US mint was diligent for years about not creating collector coins. Well all that has changed since the introduction of the state quarter series and they now offer collector coins quite routinely. If the mint were to offer an intentional dramatically doubled cent like the infamous 55 in a similar fashion as the release of the West Point cents, would that attract new collector interest?

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  3. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Active Member

    "Intentional error:" Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I think the proper term would be "money grabbing attempt"
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  5. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer Well-Known Member

    If the process of creating a die included doubling then wouldn't that be the expected image? A coin without the doubling would be the error. ;)
  6. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd


    I don't know if that's a can of worms anyone wants to see opened! I never really did get in to the mint errors. My late wife did big time and I took a mild interest when she was still with me, but never did a whole bunch of studying on the subject. Will be interested to see what @paddyman98 has to say on this.
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  7. Randy Abercrombie

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    I don't disagree at all. Being a businessman, my mind tends to think like a businessman. "How can I maximize profit and create market interest". And considering the hobby has a huge interest in mint errors I just wonder if something like this could be any more interesting than any of the mundane offerings the mint has pushed on us in recent years.
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The trouble is if it’s intentional, the interest goes out of it for most collectors. It certainly would for me.

    To be technical, the 1955 doubled die Cent is not a mint error; it’s a die variety. Error collectors have corrected me about this misconception in the past
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  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I think if a significant DDO occurred (“unintentionally”) during the minting process and then the mint decided to strike and sell <10,000, they would sell out.
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I remember buying a couple of the 2008 CONECA 25th Anniversary Sets which included a pair of intentional errors. One of the medals was struck in silver.
    IMG_2269.JPG When I decided to list one of the sets on eBay, it sold for $10. Nope! I don't think intentional errors are in too much demand.

  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    It would have to be a "oops, how did THAT make it out of the mint!" kind of error. They may "accidentally" be placed in proof sets or other mint products.

    It wouldn't immediately raise mint revenue, but would give collectors a reason again to order directly from the mint for a chance to receive one.
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  12. Robert91791

    Robert91791 Supporter! Supporter

    Im sure it will and people will monetize the market for error coins and there would be a fool that will fall for it.
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    If I were into errors, I am sure I would be kicking myself the rest of my life over a coin I saw for sale about 40 years ago. It was just like the OP pic, except it ALSO was an offcenter error. So, it might be the only 55 DD that is truly also a mint error. It was too much for me back then anyway, but I always remembered that coin.
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I agree 100%, so would many others. :)

    But then that's an argument among the so called experts that has gone on for decades. And it's not just about that specific coin, the argument is about how one defines an error, and a variety. There is not and never has been any agreement or consensus on that.

    I've never really understood the argument myself as the difference between the two seems quite clear and self-evident to me. Errors can only occur with individual coins, while varieties can only occur with entire groups of coins all struck by a specific die.

    But, the argument rages on and I suspect always will. The reason of course is it's what certain people "want" to call the coins - it's really nothing more than that.
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And Randy, what you're suggesting would by definition not be an intentional error, it would be an intentional variety. And they've been making those for years and they sell very, very, well.
  16. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but who's Coneca ? :angelic:
    :rolleyes: :oops: o_O :D :p :cool:
  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Actually.. World's most recognized Variety!
  18. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    Sorry but I don't get the point of this thread.. Mint Errors and Varieties are not really intentional. Sounds like a Oxymoron.
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    In the 1950's the US Postal Service accidentally made a stamp error. As we know from printing paper Dollars there are several prints made in order to print the entire bill. The same is true with stamps. Several different plates are used. In the stamp error I am referring to one of the plates was printed backwards. This left two white streaks through the stamp from top to bottom.

    The white streaks were supposed to be buildings and the entire stamp had a yellow background. This created an error. Once word of this got out a frenzy was created. In order to control the situation the Postal Service deliberately printed tens of millions of this thing up with the white streaks. This was done intentionally, thereby making the original error worthless.

    The only way to prove you had an original error was to have it canceled with the postmark. To this date all of the stamps are considered intentional errors and are only worth the value printed on the stamp.

    Well it might be a nice idea to have the US Mint mint an intentional error on a coin it would render the coin at face value only. The Postal Service, the US Mint in the BEP do not like to be associated with errors. They are all parts of the government and as we all know the government does not make mistakes, intentional or otherwise.
  21. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Meow is thinking Dag Hammarskjold?
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