I have a 1888 or 1898 Indian penny with the edges raised on both sides almost looks like a button , the coin is in great shape what would this be worth?
It is not an error coin. The edges were hit with an object to flatten it. So it is damaged. Worth 1 Cent and nothing more
no the edges are rounded I was told by someone who collects coins that it in fact is a error but had no clue what this would be worth so I figured I would post it.
The person is wrong. That is not a Mint Error. If you understood the minting process and how errors are formed then you would know that can't occur. Trust me, I have been collecting Mint Errors for 30+ years
What is the cents diameter compared to another. I do believe that your collector friend is wrong, it looks like it has been spooned.
Spooned coin, or a similar type of damage. People with much time, such as inmates tap the edge of a coin with a spoon repeatedly for weeks or months. After the coin flattens out, they pierce the center, smooth it and, wa-laaa! A ring!
I did ask that question and was told that it's very rare to come across one like this but in fact it's not man made , please understand I'm new to all this that's why I'm asking. I have ask several collectors that have seen it in person ,they tell me the same thing and when I tell them or rather suggest that is it possible that this was done by a person ? I sent a picture and was told that it was, there response is you really can't see this in a picture ,you need to really look at it in person that's how rare this type is that's why I'm confused
So then. We did our best. You are not going to get a different answer from any of us. It is damaged and that's all. You will be better off just leaving this forum because we don't lie.
please that is not what I was implying I'm sorry if that's the way I made it sound, I was just passing along what was said to me, maybe this was something new. thank you for the info you gave me.
Yes that is what a Die Cap looks like. But your Indian Cent is not a Die Cap... It's intentionally damaged
Picken and Grinin is trying to help you by extending you the only shred of hope you would remotely have to establish it hasn't been spooned. Even if it hasn't, it possibly could have been built up and filed down smooth by any number of skilled kindred craftsmen.... or women. I know some really talented gal jewelers too! I'll even go this far, on a good day, I can still tig tiny micro beads of just about any metal that is weldable, including copper. The tiniest aluminum bead most skilled metal melters can do are huge by comparison to those that they can lay in or on stainless, TI, steel, copper etc........ just something to think about and yes that could be done with minimal heat affected zone leaving behind any additional damage to the coin. Have anyone with a pair of calipers measure the diameter of it in several areas. IF it has been altered or damaged, it's diameter will be smaller than known spec. To that end, I doubt it is a some newly discovered and very unlikely error, but, I personally, wouldn't emphatically state that it isn't without knowing the exact dimensions. The other guys emphatically asserting this have tons more experience with these coins that I do and I give them credit for understanding the methods used and the astronomical odds that your coin isn't what they are telling you. Also, many people who own calipers lack the skill or knowledge to accurately measure a round object with them, much less from various data points to determine how "round" a circle is.
It is hard to deny those being fine works of craftsmanship. I don't know if they have any value at this time, but, one day they should be appreciated. But, what do I know? I'm crazy enough to think it is possible that in our life-times, coins and paper money we use today will be just trinkets people reminiscently collect, intrinsic value or otherwise. I'm certain there are powerful forces actively working to that end. The numismatic sees DAMAGE, the kindred artist sees beauty and hours of skilled application adding value to an item that would have very little value otherwise. Assuming none of those were done with coins that were valuable prior.
Watch face similar to the thin Corum watch whose face is an actual gold coin. Yeah, I'd machine a larger silver, gold, copper or nickel coin for that purpose although that nice Indian Head wouldn't quite be large enough even for a smallish unisex watch. EDM a nice coin into a front and back even.......super clean and easy to work. That is where your market for coins like this would be, or a jewlery store, or art gallery. http://www.chrono24.com/corum/coin-watch--mod1323.htm vintage classics from the 50's, with case style shown in the third version down the left column, fetch large money the others I believe are modern spin-offs
