Mint Director Releases 2021 Morgan and Peace Dollar Renderings

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  1. Medussa

    Medussa Silver

    I agree that the date is too large. It also appears that they are adding detail to Liberty's hair...don't like it. Stay with the design. Do not try to improve/enhance it.
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  3. messydesk

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    The obverse is based on the 1921 design, but made into a low-relief coin, so the hair will not look like the 1922-35 coins and the date is thicker. The 0 in the date needs to be moved a touch to the right and made round, though.
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    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Of course that's my point - the United States Mint has no business being concerned about any "aftermarket". They're not making Beanie Babies. I realize that I'm tilting at windmills, but their job is to market a design, take the orders, then mint them. If collectors are asleep and the demand later exceeds the supply, that's the natural outcome for the market. If the collectors got all they want and the demand is never more than that, well... that's their job! If they market a design, and I want one at the exact time it goes on sale but I can't get it, then they're an abject failure. Their job is not to produce something that I cannot get from them when they say I can.
  5. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    i had the same thoughts as Santinidollar
  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    SSSHHHHH! Don't give them any ideas!
  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    You mean like this?


    or this?

  8. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    The new quarter reverse!...WOW!
  9. Santinidollar

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    And if the Mint is concerned about the aftermarket, that would beg the question of “why.”
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  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Because that would be being smart. If you consistently put out things that fall in price you either have to lower your prices or watch sales decline. It would be foolish not to be considering it in strategy
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  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    They've been putting out clad proof sets that fall in price for the last fifty years.
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  12. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    And you proved the point. Their prices are minuscule and their sales are pathetic
  13. Vess1

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    Here's another article about them. Sounds like more light has been shed on what they're going to do. According to this article it sounds like the Peace dollars will only be made at Philadelphia so there'll be a business strike and maybe a proof to chase. They intend to strike them on normal commemorative planchets so will likely be 90% and original size.

    The Morgans will be produced at all three mints with the Philadelphia mint producing special privy marks for CC and O. So that will be possibly 10 different types to collect of the Morgans. Not that you have to have them all but I imagine they will all be popular. No word on mintage limits. I just want them to be affordable and easy to obtain. I don't even care if the price goes down in the aftermarket.

    When are they going to get these on the product schedule?
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  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    The current commemoratives are 99.9 so when the author says "The coins will be struck on the same planchet as is used for current commemorative silver dollars. This will result in the same weight, thickness and diameter specifications as the original Morgan and Peace dollars." That's just not possible.
  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Sort of. The difference in density between .999 and .900 is 1.5%. Same weight and diameter will be possible if the new ones are 1.5% less thick -- 2.46 mm instead of 2.5 mm
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  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Obviously people probably wouldn't even notice in hand, it was just a really weird thing to put in an article saying it will all be the same when a different purity is being used which of course will confuse some people
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  17. Vess1

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    Hey, yeah, it's just been in my head for so many years that commems were 90% and now they're not. I knew there was a big change in 2019 with the silver proof sets going to .999 but I didn't realize everything was changing over including the commemoratives. I should have known. Thanks for the correction. And it does sound like they would have to be slightly thinner due to this. You'd think the people involved with this would realize the different density in metals, even if they weren't involved with the 2016 Centennials.
  18. Vess1

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    Since it sounds like they were going for high relief on the Peace I wonder how a thinner planchet would work? And I thought the whole point of going .999 was to use standardized planchets so I doubt they will make special thinner ones.

    If anyone is interested, the Intaglio mint made some really cool high relief 2 ozers including a Peace dollar version. Its a smaller diameter and a really thick planchet. The one I got has perfect surfaces and is way more high relief than my real 1921. Just a cool bullion round.
  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yea that just really jumped out at me since we all know collectors aren't sticklers for things at all lol. Seemed like a weird mistake to make for a numismatic publication.
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