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<p>[QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 396297, member: 12965"]Why it isn't a 1802 S-249:</p><p> </p><p>Left stem is too long</p><p>Stems do not line up properly with corresponding legend letter</p><p>"1" of 1/000 fraction is too low </p><p>Leaf tip at "M" in AMERICA is too high</p><p>ONE CENT is located differently</p><p>Many berries do not match up</p><p>LIBERTY has different position</p><p> </p><p>Why it isn't a 1801 S-220</p><p> </p><p>Left stem is too long</p><p>Stems do not line up properly with corresponding legend letter</p><p>Leaf tip at N in UNITED does not match up</p><p>UNITED itself is located lower</p><p>Leaf tips at STATE do not match up</p><p>Leaf tips at AMERICA do not match up</p><p>Distance from hair to LIBERTY is less</p><p> </p><p>Why it isn't a 1801 S-223</p><p> </p><p>Reverse is practically identical except the fraction bar appears to be slightly different but due to corrosion, the fraction bar difference cannot be confirmed. The only way to tell it isn't this date/variety, is the date itself and the spacing of LIBERTY above the hair. The first "1" on a 223 is further away from the curl and LIBERTY isn't as close to the hair.</p><p> </p><p>This was clearly a ground find and as to being harshly cleaned, I cannot confirm, however I do see what appears to be steel brush marks on the reverse and while the condition isn't great, it is a 1802 S-228 and does fill a hole in my collection until such time as I can obtain a better example and given the fact that in order to have the complete collection, minus the NC varieties, it takes approximately 176 pennies, so the 20 I currently own are just a beginning of my DBC collection. I still have a lot more to get. :headbang:</p><p> </p><p>Furthermore, this just further proves my original point, which was, with all of the minute differences (aka: varieties), being able to attribute this is possible. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Ribbit <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Ps: The 1802 S-228 is Common so getting a better example won't be hard but I paid 5 bucks for it so I didn't get hurt and that's why I went ahead and bought it, even though I could not confirm date nor variety prior to buying it. It also was awesome practice for attributing. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It took me quite a bit of time to finally confirm what it was and while I was disappointed it was so Common, I was still happy I managed to attribute it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Pps: A 1802 0/100 books at around $80.00/$150.00 for a G-4 so 5 bucks for this was actually a pretty good deal. Once I get a better example, I can sell it on Ebay for more, with the proper attribution. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 396297, member: 12965"]Why it isn't a 1802 S-249: Left stem is too long Stems do not line up properly with corresponding legend letter "1" of 1/000 fraction is too low Leaf tip at "M" in AMERICA is too high ONE CENT is located differently Many berries do not match up LIBERTY has different position Why it isn't a 1801 S-220 Left stem is too long Stems do not line up properly with corresponding legend letter Leaf tip at N in UNITED does not match up UNITED itself is located lower Leaf tips at STATE do not match up Leaf tips at AMERICA do not match up Distance from hair to LIBERTY is less Why it isn't a 1801 S-223 Reverse is practically identical except the fraction bar appears to be slightly different but due to corrosion, the fraction bar difference cannot be confirmed. The only way to tell it isn't this date/variety, is the date itself and the spacing of LIBERTY above the hair. The first "1" on a 223 is further away from the curl and LIBERTY isn't as close to the hair. This was clearly a ground find and as to being harshly cleaned, I cannot confirm, however I do see what appears to be steel brush marks on the reverse and while the condition isn't great, it is a 1802 S-228 and does fill a hole in my collection until such time as I can obtain a better example and given the fact that in order to have the complete collection, minus the NC varieties, it takes approximately 176 pennies, so the 20 I currently own are just a beginning of my DBC collection. I still have a lot more to get. :headbang: Furthermore, this just further proves my original point, which was, with all of the minute differences (aka: varieties), being able to attribute this is possible. :D Ribbit :) Ps: The 1802 S-228 is Common so getting a better example won't be hard but I paid 5 bucks for it so I didn't get hurt and that's why I went ahead and bought it, even though I could not confirm date nor variety prior to buying it. It also was awesome practice for attributing. :D It took me quite a bit of time to finally confirm what it was and while I was disappointed it was so Common, I was still happy I managed to attribute it. :) Pps: A 1802 0/100 books at around $80.00/$150.00 for a G-4 so 5 bucks for this was actually a pretty good deal. Once I get a better example, I can sell it on Ebay for more, with the proper attribution. :)[/QUOTE]
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