Mint bungles the Missouri quarter

GDJMSP · Jul 26, 2005

All I can tell you is that THAT is how all the SQ's come to be. Those are the rules - as they have been since the beginning of the program. A large part of the reason for these rules has already been mentioned in a previous post -

It's my understanding that the Mint uses the design submitted as a guide because of copyright laws. If you created the original design and the Mint used it as is, you would be entitled to royalties.
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The mint will only produce coins that THEY design.

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Bacchus · Jul 26, 2005

This is from the April issue of COINage. The quoted speaker is Daniel Miller, who designed the Texas quarter.

The Mint’s apparent fear of legal entanglements had led to a radical change in the design rules. In the past, competing artists would submit actual drawings of their designs. Now, the Mint is accepting only “design concepts.”

“I recently wanted to enter the contest for the Minnesota state quarter,” Miller said. “But when I looked at the Mint’s revised guidelines, they’re now saying, ‘Just send us a verbal description of what you think the coin should look like.’ They aren’t even accepting real art from artists anymore!”

Apparently, lawyers and fear of lawsuits have prevailed.

“The issue of giving credit to artists has turned into such a problem for the people at the Mint, they don’t even want to see real art,” Miller said. “From a legal standpoint, I guess I understand. But the whole contest could have been a lot more fun, and people would have felt a lot more involved, if the Mint would just share some of the honor with the artists.”
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Doug is right. My original rant is incorrect. The Mint didn't actually bungle the design; they constructed an operating environment that precluded excellence.

Bacchus · Jul 26, 2005

Here's the original Missouri artwork:

http://www.pauljackson.com/portfolio/larger.asp?id=88

ajm229 · Jul 26, 2005

Bacchus said:

Here's the original Missouri artwork:

http://www.pauljackson.com/portfolio/larger.asp?id=88
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Okay then, never mind what I said before, that really is a great design! I'm not going to say I don't like the real State Quarter, but that is definitely a better design!

~AJ

rick · Jul 26, 2005

ajm229 said:

Without being too much of a jerk here, let me just say that all the time I've been on this site and among EVERYONE ELSE I've ever talked to, I've never heard anyone say anything other than "collect what you like." If that is strictly 100% from the National Collector's Mint, then I find it belittling and rude to suggest that it "should never be discussed without pointing out the damage they do."

I myself bought their "Washington, D.C. 51st State Quarter Commem." not for the silver or for any kind of profit in mind. I didn't buy it because I cared what was in it or what anyone else thought of it. I got it because I liked the way it looked and I thought it would add to my collection in a positive manner.

I don't mean to be insensitive or rude, but I must insist that we not be ignorant of people who, like myself, enjoy pieces from the NCM, and who purchase them. I feel belittled and put off by these comments.

Thanks,
~AJ
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Sorry AJ - I stand by my statement. I respect your tastes, but the National Collectors Mint uses blatant lies, and misleading statements to promote their products.

I accept that you do not take my word for it, but ask some coin dealers what they think, and I think you will find that my statements are not mine alone.

Now, if you collect their 'coins', that's fine - I'm not judging you. At least you knew what you were buying when you purchased it. If they came flat out and told everyone the truth of their products - that they are worth the value of their silver clad on the open market - I would have no issue with them.

coin roll guy · Jul 26, 2005

I think the mints design is actually better. Can you imagine all the possible errors that would have been incured because of all the little changes in direction on the origional design!

ajm229 · Jul 27, 2005

rick said:

Sorry AJ - I stand by my statement. I respect your tastes, but the National Collectors Mint uses blatant lies, and misleading statements to promote their products.

I accept that you do not take my word for it, but ask some coin dealers what they think, and I think you will find that my statements are not mine alone.

Now, if you collect their 'coins', that's fine - I'm not judging you. At least you knew what you were buying when you purchased it. If they came flat out and told everyone the truth of their products - that they are worth the value of their silver clad on the open market - I would have no issue with them.
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Unless you are only buying to make a future profit: who cares?

rick · Jul 27, 2005

My collection cares. Personally, I like authentic coins in my collection - that's just me

Myron · Aug 2, 2005

I also agree. The Mint did a terrible job with the Missouri Quarter. They made the Gateway Arch look like a McDonald's Arch. The original design was awesome and they botched it. I was so disappointed when I saw it.

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