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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3331336, member: 99456"][USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER] I enjoyed your excellent post on the adaptability of the Normans. I have three coins to share. All three coins are linked to Roger the II, if I get the complicated genealogy right. The earliest coin : Conrad II, second son of the Holy Roman emperor Henry IV, held various roles: Duke of Lower Lorraine (1076-87), King of Germany (1087-98) and King of Italy (1093-98).</p><p><br /></p><p>Conrad II's link to the Normans in Sicily is by marriage: Conrad II married Maximilla (aka Matilda) daughter of Roger the I, a Norman who became the first Count of Sicily and consolidated Norman holdings in Italy. Matilda was the daughter of Roger I and his third wife Adelaide del Vasto. Matilda was also sister of Roger the II of Sicily. Conrad and Matilda were married in Pisa in 1095.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]882722[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Italian States, Genoa, <b>Conrad II as King of Italy</b></p><p><b>AR denaro</b> 16.8mm, 0.9gm, struck c. AD 1139</p><p><b>Obv:</b> +·IA·NV·A· City gate within finely ribbed circle</p><p><b>Rev:</b> CVNRADI REX Cross pattée within finely ribbed circle</p><p><b>Ref:</b> Biaggi 825</p><p><br /></p><p>The second coin is from William II "The Good" who was grandson of Roger II and is the same as your coin above.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]882721[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Sicily: </b>William II 1166-1189 A.D.</p><p><b>Mint:</b> Messina</p><p><b>Obv: </b>o REX W / SCYS in 2 lines in center +OPERATA IN VRBE MESSANE around</p><p><b>Rev:</b> In Arabic الملك غليوم الثاني (al-malik/Ghulyalim/al-thani) "the King William the second" in center and further inscription around "duriba bi-amr al-malik al-mu'azzam al-musta'izz bi-llah" translated "struck by the order of the king the great and strong by the grace of God".</p><p><br /></p><p>The third coin is from Tancred, who was the bastard son of Roger the III, which means he was also the grandson of Roger II.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]882718[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Tancred </b>(King of Sicily reigned 1189-1194) Æ Follaro</p><p><b>Obv:</b> +<i>ROGERIVS:</i>; in center, <i>REX</i>; dots above and below</p><p><b>Rev:</b> Arabic (Kufic) legend on two lines - المالك تنقرير (<i>al-malik Tanqrir; the King, Tancred</i>)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3331336, member: 99456"][USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER] I enjoyed your excellent post on the adaptability of the Normans. I have three coins to share. All three coins are linked to Roger the II, if I get the complicated genealogy right. The earliest coin : Conrad II, second son of the Holy Roman emperor Henry IV, held various roles: Duke of Lower Lorraine (1076-87), King of Germany (1087-98) and King of Italy (1093-98). Conrad II's link to the Normans in Sicily is by marriage: Conrad II married Maximilla (aka Matilda) daughter of Roger the I, a Norman who became the first Count of Sicily and consolidated Norman holdings in Italy. Matilda was the daughter of Roger I and his third wife Adelaide del Vasto. Matilda was also sister of Roger the II of Sicily. Conrad and Matilda were married in Pisa in 1095. [ATTACH=full]882722[/ATTACH] Italian States, Genoa, [B]Conrad II as King of Italy AR denaro[/B] 16.8mm, 0.9gm, struck c. AD 1139 [B]Obv:[/B] +·IA·NV·A· City gate within finely ribbed circle [B]Rev:[/B] CVNRADI REX Cross pattée within finely ribbed circle [B]Ref:[/B] Biaggi 825 The second coin is from William II "The Good" who was grandson of Roger II and is the same as your coin above. [ATTACH=full]882721[/ATTACH] [B]Sicily: [/B]William II 1166-1189 A.D. [B]Mint:[/B] Messina [B]Obv: [/B]o REX W / SCYS in 2 lines in center +OPERATA IN VRBE MESSANE around [B]Rev:[/B] In Arabic الملك غليوم الثاني (al-malik/Ghulyalim/al-thani) "the King William the second" in center and further inscription around "duriba bi-amr al-malik al-mu'azzam al-musta'izz bi-llah" translated "struck by the order of the king the great and strong by the grace of God". The third coin is from Tancred, who was the bastard son of Roger the III, which means he was also the grandson of Roger II. [ATTACH=full]882718[/ATTACH] [B]Tancred [/B](King of Sicily reigned 1189-1194) Æ Follaro [B]Obv:[/B] +[I]ROGERIVS:[/I]; in center, [I]REX[/I]; dots above and below [B]Rev:[/B] Arabic (Kufic) legend on two lines - المالك تنقرير ([I]al-malik Tanqrir; the King, Tancred[/I])[/QUOTE]
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