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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3227384, member: 93416"]Yes I checked the article I wrote a few years back on this. Robert of Selby was chancellor in Sicily. Thomas Brown was a member of his staff who subsequently worked in the court of Henry II in London. The argument for Islamic influence hangs on the specific number of jurors (12), and comparisons with contemporary Islamic North African practice. As I said, as it stands the argument seems a bit thin, and indecisive. However, I see no reason at all to call the idea silly. </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe trial by combat was a practice of ancient German early illiterate society? And introduced into England by William I? I am inclined to say that that practice would correctly be called silly</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Correct, but oddly, Offa’s dinar at root had no real connection to the sterling system either. The Islamic gold dinar weight seems to be a form of Attic, surviving at Damascus. The sterling system seems to be a much older, from Egypt, and was instead applied to Islamic silver dirhems. And, apparently, thence to Offa’s silver penny.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Its very probably more complicated than that. Cologne seems clearly to be using the sterling standard already by the 10th century. Meanwhile, the Vikings certainly introduced their own weight system to England, which seems to have been, in complicated ways, a derivative of Attic via Roman practice. So, at the very least, in 1083, William I chose sterling out of a number of alternatives, and he quite possibly chose it in contradiction to Paris and Rome, but in line with Cologne.</p><p><br /></p><p>That’s my best guess, would be pleased to hear of evidence, for or against</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3227384, member: 93416"]Yes I checked the article I wrote a few years back on this. Robert of Selby was chancellor in Sicily. Thomas Brown was a member of his staff who subsequently worked in the court of Henry II in London. The argument for Islamic influence hangs on the specific number of jurors (12), and comparisons with contemporary Islamic North African practice. As I said, as it stands the argument seems a bit thin, and indecisive. However, I see no reason at all to call the idea silly. I believe trial by combat was a practice of ancient German early illiterate society? And introduced into England by William I? I am inclined to say that that practice would correctly be called silly Correct, but oddly, Offa’s dinar at root had no real connection to the sterling system either. The Islamic gold dinar weight seems to be a form of Attic, surviving at Damascus. The sterling system seems to be a much older, from Egypt, and was instead applied to Islamic silver dirhems. And, apparently, thence to Offa’s silver penny. Its very probably more complicated than that. Cologne seems clearly to be using the sterling standard already by the 10th century. Meanwhile, the Vikings certainly introduced their own weight system to England, which seems to have been, in complicated ways, a derivative of Attic via Roman practice. So, at the very least, in 1083, William I chose sterling out of a number of alternatives, and he quite possibly chose it in contradiction to Paris and Rome, but in line with Cologne. That’s my best guess, would be pleased to hear of evidence, for or against Rob T[/QUOTE]
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