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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8344613, member: 110504&quot;]Here&#039;s a petit denier of Thierry IV, bishop of Metz 1174-1179.&nbsp; Yes, for the region (Lorraine and points north and west), the strike is as typical as the module.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1480066[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1480068[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Obv.&nbsp; Profile left; possibly St. Stephen, Metz&#039;s patron saint. [T]EODER[IC].</p><p>Rev.&nbsp; Cross; sun and crescent in angles.&nbsp; [Sun/] METE[NSIS].</p><p>Thierry represents a worst case, perfect storm scenario of the kind of nepotism that could happen at the upper levels of church administration in the 12th century.&nbsp; His father was the duke of Lorraine; his maternal uncle, Friedrich Barbarossa, had him installed as Bishop of Metz.&nbsp; ...He was never recognized by the Papacy (to the latter&#039;s credit); Alexander III finally had him formally deposed, after which he lived another couple of years.</p><p>I think it&#039;s especially fun that, given his dodgy status as bishop, the issue is still in his name.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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