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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8275594, member: 110504"]Fantastic example, [USER=86815]@Dafydd[/USER]. I really like the convergence of the Berwick mint and the lateness of the issue, as if to portend the drama of the following generation. ...And it's bracing to be reminded of how front-and-centre the Norse presence was, as late as this. You can imagine Haakon's ambitions seamlessly going back, in his own mind, to Magnus Barelegs and Harald Hardraade. ...Do you really want my advice about slabs? I only have one opinion; the needle isn't really moving.</p><p>Here's mine for today. This was begun as the start of a thread --of which I thought better; that's where the extra verbiage comes from.</p><p>Castles on early feudal coins are surprisingly thin on the ground. During the 11th and earlier 13th centuries, ecclesiastical motifs are much more common, in line with their continuing predominance in masonry architecture generally. (Obvious examples are the famously stylized, originally abbatial issues of Tours, and 11th-century deniers of the county of Dreux.) This is only the second I’ve landed, arriving this past week via French ebay.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461080[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461081[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Simon II, Duke of Lorraine 1176-1206. Petit denier of the seigneurie of Neufchâteau, possibly immobilized into the mid-13th century.</p><p><br /></p><p>Obv. St. Peter, holding the keys to Heaven. …The legend is completely absent, thanks to the ‘perfect storm’ of strike and module, notorious among issues of Lorraine and neighboring mints. Given which, it ostensibly reads: “PET [...] R.”</p><p><br /></p><p>Rev. Stone keep /donjon, surrounded by an outer curtain or chemise. Here there’s a little more of the legend; from 9 o’clock: “[.NOVI] CAST[RI].”</p><p><br /></p><p>Where standard references are concerned, of the kind more or less readily available from the US, the entire region is woefully –yes, I picked that word– underserved. Beyond the gaping hole in Duplessy, this doesn’t even show up in Boudeau, and resists finding in Dannenberg. Fortunately, the .cgb archives came to the rescue, citing a regional study linked from this page:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cgbfr.com/lorraine-seigneurie-de-neufchateau-simon-ii-denier-tb-,v35_0425,a.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cgbfr.com/lorraine-seigneurie-de-neufchateau-simon-ii-denier-tb-,v35_0425,a.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cgbfr.com/lorraine-seigneurie-de-neufchateau-simon-ii-denier-tb-,v35_0425,a.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I like how the combination of donjon and chemise, schematic as it is, evokes such examples as Richard I’s Chateau Gaillard, built with what, for the 1190’s, can only be characterized as lightning speed.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461082[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8275594, member: 110504"]Fantastic example, [USER=86815]@Dafydd[/USER]. I really like the convergence of the Berwick mint and the lateness of the issue, as if to portend the drama of the following generation. ...And it's bracing to be reminded of how front-and-centre the Norse presence was, as late as this. You can imagine Haakon's ambitions seamlessly going back, in his own mind, to Magnus Barelegs and Harald Hardraade. ...Do you really want my advice about slabs? I only have one opinion; the needle isn't really moving. Here's mine for today. This was begun as the start of a thread --of which I thought better; that's where the extra verbiage comes from. Castles on early feudal coins are surprisingly thin on the ground. During the 11th and earlier 13th centuries, ecclesiastical motifs are much more common, in line with their continuing predominance in masonry architecture generally. (Obvious examples are the famously stylized, originally abbatial issues of Tours, and 11th-century deniers of the county of Dreux.) This is only the second I’ve landed, arriving this past week via French ebay. [ATTACH=full]1461080[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1461081[/ATTACH] Simon II, Duke of Lorraine 1176-1206. Petit denier of the seigneurie of Neufchâteau, possibly immobilized into the mid-13th century. Obv. St. Peter, holding the keys to Heaven. …The legend is completely absent, thanks to the ‘perfect storm’ of strike and module, notorious among issues of Lorraine and neighboring mints. Given which, it ostensibly reads: “PET [...] R.” Rev. Stone keep /donjon, surrounded by an outer curtain or chemise. Here there’s a little more of the legend; from 9 o’clock: “[.NOVI] CAST[RI].” Where standard references are concerned, of the kind more or less readily available from the US, the entire region is woefully –yes, I picked that word– underserved. Beyond the gaping hole in Duplessy, this doesn’t even show up in Boudeau, and resists finding in Dannenberg. Fortunately, the .cgb archives came to the rescue, citing a regional study linked from this page: [URL]https://www.cgbfr.com/lorraine-seigneurie-de-neufchateau-simon-ii-denier-tb-,v35_0425,a.html[/URL] I like how the combination of donjon and chemise, schematic as it is, evokes such examples as Richard I’s Chateau Gaillard, built with what, for the 1190’s, can only be characterized as lightning speed. [ATTACH=full]1461082[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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