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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8265489, member: 84744"]What do you regulars think... do Byzantine coins count for this thread? I sorta feel like they get enough recognition among mainstream ancients collectors that this thread shouldn't really include them (except when related to an already posted coin), but maybe I'm being a snob. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I can pile on with a couple of things. First, another Vladislaus II Prague groschen, looks to be the same type as [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER], though I'm not sure how to recognize the mint (were they all Kuttenberg?):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1458308[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And to complement [USER=107503]@VD76[/USER]'s nice gigliato, here's a denaro of the Maona/Mahona of Chios:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1458310[/ATTACH]</p><p>I was lucky to get this unidentified. Thought it looked cool and managed to figure out what it was. Here are my historical notes for those who are interested:</p><p><br /></p><p>A maona (from the Arabic “mu‘āwanah” meaning 'mutual help’) was a company of shareholders who purchased a state’s right to a particular jurisdiction’s tax revenues; they cooperated in whatever way they saw fit to ensure the taxes were collected. These were the first modern western shareholding companies.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Maona of Chios (also owning the tax rights to nearby Phocaea), formed in 1346 by purchasing the tax rights from Genoa, was the most notable of these companies, even issuing its own coinage. It was initially formed by the ship owners who retook the island in Genoa’s name, with the shares acting as payment for their services. The Maona was controlled by a Genoan family, the Giustiniani, who controlled the island until it fell to the Turks in 1566. Members of the Maona who were not Giustiniani by blood nevertheless adopted the family name.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Maona continued to pay tribute to Genoa while gathering taxes in Chios and Phocaea, earning a tidy profit. In 1363, title to the island passed to John V Palaeologos and the arrangement continued.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8265489, member: 84744"]What do you regulars think... do Byzantine coins count for this thread? I sorta feel like they get enough recognition among mainstream ancients collectors that this thread shouldn't really include them (except when related to an already posted coin), but maybe I'm being a snob. :D I can pile on with a couple of things. First, another Vladislaus II Prague groschen, looks to be the same type as [USER=96898]@Orielensis[/USER], though I'm not sure how to recognize the mint (were they all Kuttenberg?): [ATTACH=full]1458308[/ATTACH] And to complement [USER=107503]@VD76[/USER]'s nice gigliato, here's a denaro of the Maona/Mahona of Chios: [ATTACH=full]1458310[/ATTACH] I was lucky to get this unidentified. Thought it looked cool and managed to figure out what it was. Here are my historical notes for those who are interested: A maona (from the Arabic “mu‘āwanah” meaning 'mutual help’) was a company of shareholders who purchased a state’s right to a particular jurisdiction’s tax revenues; they cooperated in whatever way they saw fit to ensure the taxes were collected. These were the first modern western shareholding companies. The Maona of Chios (also owning the tax rights to nearby Phocaea), formed in 1346 by purchasing the tax rights from Genoa, was the most notable of these companies, even issuing its own coinage. It was initially formed by the ship owners who retook the island in Genoa’s name, with the shares acting as payment for their services. The Maona was controlled by a Genoan family, the Giustiniani, who controlled the island until it fell to the Turks in 1566. Members of the Maona who were not Giustiniani by blood nevertheless adopted the family name. The Maona continued to pay tribute to Genoa while gathering taxes in Chios and Phocaea, earning a tidy profit. In 1363, title to the island passed to John V Palaeologos and the arrangement continued.[/QUOTE]
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