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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8240253, member: 84744"]Fair enough. I think the late date for al-Nasir Muhammad makes it extremely unlikely the coin can imitate his. (Note the hexagram style is wrong, too - Muhammad's coins have a 3D effect, where lines descend behind other lines.) Assuming, for the reasons I gave above, it's a late Crusader product, I think the betting is that the legend is derived from Saladin, al-Zahir Ghazi, or (most likely) al-Nasir Yusuf II (1250-60). He was the great grandson of Saladin and on friendly terms with the Crusaders. In which case it could be from Antioch, or Tripoli, or Acre. <a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=91549" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=91549" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> a late product of (probably) Acre:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450312[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a fals of al-Nasir Yusuf II:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450313[/ATTACH] </p><p>Put those two together and you get something close to the coin in question.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW I think Malloy/CCS 130 is in fact the Leu coin, except the Malloy illustration is upside down. I think it may illustrate something like this example (pulled from David Ruckser's <a href="https://www.academia.edu/30565544/Coins_of_the_CRUSADERS" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/30565544/Coins_of_the_CRUSADERS" rel="nofollow">nice Crusader online book</a>):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450314[/ATTACH] </p><p>Here's CCS 130 from Fitz's photo:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450315[/ATTACH] </p><p>Quite similar to the illustration. Now look at the Ruckser coin upside down:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450316[/ATTACH] </p><p>That's clearly the same type as the Leu coin!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1450318[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>OK, I think I'm finally ready to shut up about this, you'll be glad to learn. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8240253, member: 84744"]Fair enough. I think the late date for al-Nasir Muhammad makes it extremely unlikely the coin can imitate his. (Note the hexagram style is wrong, too - Muhammad's coins have a 3D effect, where lines descend behind other lines.) Assuming, for the reasons I gave above, it's a late Crusader product, I think the betting is that the legend is derived from Saladin, al-Zahir Ghazi, or (most likely) al-Nasir Yusuf II (1250-60). He was the great grandson of Saladin and on friendly terms with the Crusaders. In which case it could be from Antioch, or Tripoli, or Acre. [URL='https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=91549']Here's[/URL] a late product of (probably) Acre: [ATTACH=full]1450312[/ATTACH] Here's a fals of al-Nasir Yusuf II: [ATTACH=full]1450313[/ATTACH] Put those two together and you get something close to the coin in question. BTW I think Malloy/CCS 130 is in fact the Leu coin, except the Malloy illustration is upside down. I think it may illustrate something like this example (pulled from David Ruckser's [URL='https://www.academia.edu/30565544/Coins_of_the_CRUSADERS']nice Crusader online book[/URL]): [ATTACH=full]1450314[/ATTACH] Here's CCS 130 from Fitz's photo: [ATTACH=full]1450315[/ATTACH] Quite similar to the illustration. Now look at the Ruckser coin upside down: [ATTACH=full]1450316[/ATTACH] That's clearly the same type as the Leu coin! [ATTACH=full]1450318[/ATTACH] OK, I think I'm finally ready to shut up about this, you'll be glad to learn. :D[/QUOTE]
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