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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8238976, member: 84744"]I agree with your general sentiments about varieties, [USER=110504]@+VGO.DVCKS[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for that page, [USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER]! I see that #130 is not a good match for the two Leu coins - the illustration doesn't even have a hexagram design. Maybe a misattribution, though the coins are surely related in some way.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Except Tripoli fell to the Mamluks in 1289, long before al-Nasir's third reign. Are you suggesting that Peter of Cyprus issued these coins when he planned to retake territory on the mainland, including Tripoli? Otherwise the coin still seems quite puzzling to me. Its fabric puts it at the end of the Crusader period. It seems to be a Crusader product with imitative Arabic legends, reading al-malik al-Nasir. The closest hexagram design is found on falus of Qala'un, after the fall of Antioch but before the fall of Tripoli and Acre. The closest legend is al-Nasir Muhammad, but that's after the fall of Acre.</p><p><br /></p><p>A few ideas that occurred to me:</p><p>- could the issuer simply be harking back to a legend of Saladin? (I believe he used al-malik al-Nasir.)</p><p>- or maybe of the Ayyubid ruler al-Zahir Ghazi? There are tons of earlier Crusader imitations of his coins.</p><p>- or what about al-Nasir Yusuf II of Aleppo, he has some falus <a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=16188" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=16188" rel="nofollow">with a hexagram design</a>.</p><p>- Also, check out these very late Crusader coins attributed to Acre with a similar design, <a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=4946" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=4946" rel="nofollow">the AE coins on this page</a>. Surely related?</p><p><br /></p><p>Just throwing out some ideas and hoping you guys can solve this mystery for me, I'm really just floundering around. [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER]?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8238976, member: 84744"]I agree with your general sentiments about varieties, [USER=110504]@+VGO.DVCKS[/USER]! Thanks for that page, [USER=74712]@FitzNigel[/USER]! I see that #130 is not a good match for the two Leu coins - the illustration doesn't even have a hexagram design. Maybe a misattribution, though the coins are surely related in some way. Except Tripoli fell to the Mamluks in 1289, long before al-Nasir's third reign. Are you suggesting that Peter of Cyprus issued these coins when he planned to retake territory on the mainland, including Tripoli? Otherwise the coin still seems quite puzzling to me. Its fabric puts it at the end of the Crusader period. It seems to be a Crusader product with imitative Arabic legends, reading al-malik al-Nasir. The closest hexagram design is found on falus of Qala'un, after the fall of Antioch but before the fall of Tripoli and Acre. The closest legend is al-Nasir Muhammad, but that's after the fall of Acre. A few ideas that occurred to me: - could the issuer simply be harking back to a legend of Saladin? (I believe he used al-malik al-Nasir.) - or maybe of the Ayyubid ruler al-Zahir Ghazi? There are tons of earlier Crusader imitations of his coins. - or what about al-Nasir Yusuf II of Aleppo, he has some falus [URL='https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=16188']with a hexagram design[/URL]. - Also, check out these very late Crusader coins attributed to Acre with a similar design, [URL='https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=4946']the AE coins on this page[/URL]. Surely related? Just throwing out some ideas and hoping you guys can solve this mystery for me, I'm really just floundering around. [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER]?[/QUOTE]
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