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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 8170764, member: 56653"]I am going to need to really take my time to ponder on your really packed excerpt but something is already ringing some bells: Hugo III was in Outremer probably at the same time Etienne I de Sancerre was there answering the call of Amalric's Haute Cour for the would-be (eventually failed) marriage to Sibylla. Etienne follows most of the same pattern in largesse and donative, especially towards 'the Church' while his coinage, spread ca. 1155-1190 is of sound quality billon. And since the older dukes who minted have similar coppery/brassy coinage, perhaps there was more there than spending on a continuous deficit that befell Burgundy during the 12th century. Perhaps the composition of the billon might also be connected to the scarcity of Eudes I - Hugo II material in some way.</p><p><br /></p><p>My notes on the denier of Hugo were along the less-inspired 'contemporary counterfeit' although the style, the lettering and the weight (1.11g) and the diameter, not to mention the concrete literacy of the legend indicate a likely official operation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 8170764, member: 56653"]I am going to need to really take my time to ponder on your really packed excerpt but something is already ringing some bells: Hugo III was in Outremer probably at the same time Etienne I de Sancerre was there answering the call of Amalric's Haute Cour for the would-be (eventually failed) marriage to Sibylla. Etienne follows most of the same pattern in largesse and donative, especially towards 'the Church' while his coinage, spread ca. 1155-1190 is of sound quality billon. And since the older dukes who minted have similar coppery/brassy coinage, perhaps there was more there than spending on a continuous deficit that befell Burgundy during the 12th century. Perhaps the composition of the billon might also be connected to the scarcity of Eudes I - Hugo II material in some way. My notes on the denier of Hugo were along the less-inspired 'contemporary counterfeit' although the style, the lettering and the weight (1.11g) and the diameter, not to mention the concrete literacy of the legend indicate a likely official operation.[/QUOTE]
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