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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 7975650, member: 85693&quot;]This is an enjoyable, and useful, thread.&nbsp; It&#039;s not Monday, and I don&#039;t really collect medieval, but every once in a while a medieval crops up in the Ancients section on eBay and I succumb to temptation.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Here it is, my first Richard II penny.&nbsp; I spent a lot of time trying to attribute it - York &quot;local dies&quot; type, I think:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384064[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>England, Richard II&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Penny</b></p><p><b>(c. 1391-1396 A.D.) </b></p><p><b>York Mint</b></p><p>+RIC[ΛRD]VS xx [RЄX] xx ΛnGLIЄ crowned draped bust facing, pellet on each shoulder, cross on breast (worn) / [CIVI] TAS <b>·</b>ЄB[O RΛCI], long cross pattée, trefoils in quarters, quatrefoil in centre.</p><p>Spink 1692 (see notes).</p><p>(1.01 grams / 18 x 17 mm)</p><p>eBay Oct. 2021&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Attribution Notes: </b>Obverse looks a lot like this:</p><p><br /></p><p>CNG 93, Lot: 1878, 5/22/2013</p><p>Estimate $500. Sold for $700.</p><p>Richard II. 1377-1399. AR Penny (18mm, 1.05 g, 4h).</p><p>York mint, local dies, Group A.</p><p>Purvey Obv. die 3; North 1330a; SCBC 1692. Rare, ex-Lockett</p><p><b>Note:</b> double saltire Stops (xx)</p><p>(Duncan Russell, &quot;A Richard II Early Type IB Penny from York&quot;)</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;This coin was struck during the tenancy of Archbishop Thomas Arundel (1388-1396). Potter suggests that the large issues from local dies at York occurred during a &#039;lean&#039; period at London, from 1391-1396. During this time either an insufficient quantity of dies or no dies were provided from London, necessitating the production of local dies. The relative chronology of the phases of coinage he saw at York supports this theory.&quot;</p><p>Notes to CNG Electronic Auction 209; Lot 485; 22.04.2009</p><p><br /></p><p>If not a die match, my obverse seems very close to that one in the CNG 93 sale (on right; mine on left) - the same &quot;artist&quot; perhaps?&nbsp; The reverse does not match mine; mine has a pellet stop rather than a saltire.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232492" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232492" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232492</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1384063[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>From what I gleaned from Wikipedia, Richard II was a mediocre king at best, but Shakespeare gave him some terrific lines: </p><p><br /></p><p><i>Let&#039;s talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs.</i></p><p><i>Make dust our paper and with rainy eyes</i></p><p><i>Write sorrow on the bosom of the earth.</i></p><p><i>Let&#039;s choose executors and talk of wills.</i></p><p><i>And yet not so, for what can we bequeath</i></p><p><i>Save our deposed bodies to the ground?</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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