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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7440971, member: 110504"]Thanks, [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], for starting this up again, and sorry about your present circumstances. It's like, been there, done that, got the jersey and the limited-edition coffee cup. To mix cliche, my two cents, for what they're worth.</p><p>This is a new one, a denar of Heinrich II (German king /emperor 1002-1024) of Deventer, in Frisia. (Yes, it's not here yet, and I'm using the dealer's pics. Better than I could do, anyway.) [ATTACH=full]1291027[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1291028[/ATTACH]</p><p>...Dannenberg 563. What follows includes the best rendering of the legends I've seen online.</p><p>Obv. King's hand, in a beaded sleeve. In field (right to left: RE / X.</p><p>HEINRIC [...] IMP [....].</p><p>Rev. [ostensibly; seeing it in hand will help:] DAVANTRIA.</p><p>Compare this to the Second Hand Type pennies of AEthelred II, c. 985-991. --Not Mine!!! This is from a Kunker auction of 2008, accessed via ACsearch.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1291041[/ATTACH]</p><p>Several things are cool about this. The convergence of a royal German imitation of AEthelred II (evoking 11th-c. Scandinavian imitations of the Long Cross type), from Frisia (vaguely corresponding to the Netherlands), with Scandinavian 'peck marks,' eloquently confirms the commercial relations between the later Vikings and the German polity. This in turn evokes a milieu in which the latter were taking Danegeld on one side of the channel, and using it, by more consistently peaceful means, on the other.</p><p>Another cool thing is the way in which AEthelred's prototype, with the Hand of God descending from clouds, and the Alpha and Omega in the fields, is replaced by the royal, sleeved hand, with 'REX' in the fields. This strikes me as almost ironic, since the earlier Salian kings and emperors, prominently including Heinrich II, were conspicuous patrons of the clerical authorities. (Somebody here posted a thread on this a few years ago, which persistently resists finding. --If you're out there, a link would be cordially welcome!)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7440971, member: 110504"]Thanks, [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], for starting this up again, and sorry about your present circumstances. It's like, been there, done that, got the jersey and the limited-edition coffee cup. To mix cliche, my two cents, for what they're worth. This is a new one, a denar of Heinrich II (German king /emperor 1002-1024) of Deventer, in Frisia. (Yes, it's not here yet, and I'm using the dealer's pics. Better than I could do, anyway.) [ATTACH=full]1291027[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1291028[/ATTACH] ...Dannenberg 563. What follows includes the best rendering of the legends I've seen online. Obv. King's hand, in a beaded sleeve. In field (right to left: RE / X. HEINRIC [...] IMP [....]. Rev. [ostensibly; seeing it in hand will help:] DAVANTRIA. Compare this to the Second Hand Type pennies of AEthelred II, c. 985-991. --Not Mine!!! This is from a Kunker auction of 2008, accessed via ACsearch. [ATTACH=full]1291041[/ATTACH] Several things are cool about this. The convergence of a royal German imitation of AEthelred II (evoking 11th-c. Scandinavian imitations of the Long Cross type), from Frisia (vaguely corresponding to the Netherlands), with Scandinavian 'peck marks,' eloquently confirms the commercial relations between the later Vikings and the German polity. This in turn evokes a milieu in which the latter were taking Danegeld on one side of the channel, and using it, by more consistently peaceful means, on the other. Another cool thing is the way in which AEthelred's prototype, with the Hand of God descending from clouds, and the Alpha and Omega in the fields, is replaced by the royal, sleeved hand, with 'REX' in the fields. This strikes me as almost ironic, since the earlier Salian kings and emperors, prominently including Heinrich II, were conspicuous patrons of the clerical authorities. (Somebody here posted a thread on this a few years ago, which persistently resists finding. --If you're out there, a link would be cordially welcome!)[/QUOTE]
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