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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4957303, member: 110504&quot;]...Since joining the forum, I&#039;ve been finding out how chaotic the files for my coin .jpgs are.&nbsp; (Which are mostly nothing to write home about in the first place; you get dealers&#039; photos, or, hardly an improvement, mine.&nbsp; Along the lines of, &#039;Golly, Ethel, one of them there (bottom shelf) Digital Cameras! And will you just Look at those Tall Buildings!?!&#039;&nbsp; --I&#039;m half Ozark; makes it legal to talk like that.&nbsp; ...And (now I can&#039;t shut up) Great-Grandpa could Kick your, er, Stuff on a fiddle.)</p><p>...Back to the ostensible subject at hand, I finally found the reverse of the coin that became my avatar.[ATTACH=full]1191720[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1191721[/ATTACH]</p><p>France, Duchy of Burgundy.&nbsp; Hugues IV, 1218-1272. (As noted before, funly contemporaneous to Henry III.&nbsp; Except, Hugues actually <i>went </i>on crusade, twice, while Henry was talking about it.)*&nbsp; Denier of Dijon.</p><p>Obv.&nbsp; +VGO BVRGVNDIE; in field: DVX.</p><p>Rev.&nbsp; Cross; +DIVIONENSIS (Dijon --Yep, and Champagne is no less eponymous).</p><p>What follows is mostly reducible to how deep in the weeds you can get for references about some of this.&nbsp; Since Duplessy&#039;s Monnaies Feodales hasn&#039;t gotten to Burgundy yet, one has to improvise a little ...or a lot.&nbsp; Besides Boudeau (solid, in context, but early 20th century), I have resort to the Alde catalogue, 16 and 17 June 2011.&nbsp; It has a solid run of coins of Burgundy, especially 12th and 13th centuries, with citations of a Dumas article which I can only <i>wish </i>was easier to find online.&nbsp; There, this type is no. 308 and following.&nbsp; Alde also cites Poey d&#039;Avant plate, CXXX1 no. 12, corresponding to the textual listing 5678.&nbsp; ...If Alde could cite Poey d&#039;Avant (c. 1850&#039;s-&#039;60&#039;s), surely it&#039;s legal to cite Boudeau (1212).</p><p>*Only once did I ever actually say this, to a Muslim of perceived Middle Eastern descent: &#039;Congratulations on the Crusades.&nbsp; You kicked our (oops, deleted).&#039;&nbsp; Nope, sure enough, spontaneous gunfire was conspicuous for its absence.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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